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Over the last 48 hours everyone has been talking about the Xbox 360 and how the PS3 will compare when it hits next year. Nobody has been talking about how the Revolution might size up. Despite the remote control on a leash that was unveiled at TGS, it seems many are calling the next-generation a 2 horse race. It's not that people are discounting Nintendo, it's that we've seen these "revolutionary" products before.
The 3D0, the Sega 32x, the N-Gage, and of course the Virtual Boy were all supposed to take us to new gaming heights only to fail miserably. Will the Revolution and its controller become the red-headed step child of the next-generation? Nobody knows but if history is any indication, having a cool new feature can be a hit (the Eye-Toy) or a miss (the Power Glove)
I know Nintendo Fanboys are not going to be happy with this one, but remember it's all in good fun and you can be sure if the Revolution is truly a breakthrough, we'll be lining up on launch day to get one just like the rest of you.
Apulo
11-23-2005, 12:35 PM
I actually kind of want a Revolution. I'll probably preorder one when the time comes.
I mostly want it for the back catalog of games. I really miss playing some of those. If it wasn't for that, I'd probably pass.
Regole
11-23-2005, 12:38 PM
I want a Revolution for the back catalog, but I'll probably want it for more than that once we actually see some games running on it.
AcquiredTarget
11-23-2005, 12:40 PM
Has Nintendo released the specs or even a release time for the Revolution? Because the 360 was released before any of the others, its pretty much been relegated to the second console status for a large number of gamers. As for the succcess of the controller, it all depends on the game makers who are working on games for the release. If they program for the new controller, then I think its got a chance. But I believe by the time it launches, the controller that they've shown won't be the one on the box. Unfortunately, It'll more than likely be an accessory.
But then, I could be wrong......nah!
Octocamo
11-23-2005, 12:51 PM
I want a Revolution...for my "second" system, PS3 as my main one.
Digital*Firefly
11-23-2005, 01:14 PM
I'm excited about Revolution.
+back catalog
+1st party titles (mario, zelda, smash bros)
+trying something different
I'll be getting all 3 systems. I just hope the revolution has a regular controller too. Heck, I'd be happy using the Gamecube controller. I just hope they don't make all the games us the new controller.
Emptythought
11-23-2005, 04:48 PM
I'm excited about Revolution.
+back catalog
+1st party titles (mario, zelda, smash bros)
+trying something different
I'll be getting all 3 systems. I just hope the revolution has a regular controller too. Heck, I'd be happy using the Gamecube controller. I just hope they don't make all the games us the new controller.
same, 100%
but you missed the fact that theres always weird 2nd/3rd party titles like viewtiful joe coming out for the nitendo sytems first(and PD, in the old days, there was always some awesome 2/3rd party games for the nintendo systems that were exclusives)
Regole
11-23-2005, 04:50 PM
same, 100%
but you missed the fact that theres always weird 2nd/3rd party titles like viewtiful joe coming out for the nitendo sytems first(and PD, in the old days, there was always some awesome 2/3rd party games for the nintendo systems that were exclusives)
Too bad Viewtiful Joe got ported to the PS2 =/
PS: Get on AIM now
Arandar
11-23-2005, 10:56 PM
Gee Scot the XBox fanboy making a comic that makes fun of Nintendo? I'm so shocked about this. :rolleyes:
Anyway just like with this current generation and the one before it the Revo will be my first system and then I will consider getting the others once they get their heads out of their asses and lower the prices and get some games that interest me. I might not get a Sony or MS made console again though because the PS2 and XBox are made so shitty. They are BOTH having the SAME problems making some stupid grinding noise when I play them and they are only 2 years old(PS2) and 1 year old(XBox). My fucking nearly 9 year old N64 works better for crying out loud.
BTW, if you think the Eye Toy is a hit then your on crack.
Captain N
11-23-2005, 11:13 PM
Yeah total fanboy. Because the first comic was completely in favor of the 360 launch.
Tedakin
11-23-2005, 11:33 PM
Gee Scot the XBox fanboy making a comic that makes fun of Nintendo? I'm so shocked about this. :rolleyes:
Anyway just like with this current generation and the one before it the Revo will be my first system and then I will consider getting the others once they get their heads out of their asses and lower the prices and get some games that interest me. I might not get a Sony or MS made console again though because the PS2 and XBox are made so shitty. They are BOTH having the SAME problems making some stupid grinding noise when I play them and they are only 2 years old(PS2) and 1 year old(XBox). My fucking nearly 9 year old N64 works better for crying out loud.
BTW, if you think the Eye Toy is a hit then your on crack.
We strive to be equal opportunity haters.
The_Raven
11-24-2005, 02:37 PM
Yea really, since when was the eye toy a hit?
Blackwolf
11-24-2005, 02:41 PM
Don't worry, I already e-punched both Scot and Ted for this comic before it went up.
My hand e-hurts. Maybe I should have worn my power glove... :,<
Arandar
11-24-2005, 10:22 PM
I still want to know why Scot insists that the things Nintendo makes are failures, yet the shitty add ons that Sony and MS make are considered hits. I mean if he wants to be taken seriously for a radio show and company covering the games industry he can't be so blatantly biased against one of the major players. This was the problem of G4 and why it pissed off many people. I don't want Scot to continue down this path and end up the same.
Tedakin
11-25-2005, 12:41 AM
I still want to know why Scot insists that the things Nintendo makes are failures, yet the shitty add ons that Sony and MS make are considered hits. I mean if he wants to be taken seriously for a radio show and company covering the games industry he can't be so blatantly biased against one of the major players. This was the problem of G4 and why it pissed off many people. I don't want Scot to continue down this path and end up the same.
The other companies were ripped on last week and that's okay. But if he rips on Nintendo he's a hater, anti-Nintendo. I don't get it...
Regole
11-25-2005, 02:28 AM
The other companies were ripped on last week and that's okay. But if he rips on Nintendo he's a hater, anti-Nintendo. I don't get it...
Probably because the controller is more relevant than a lack of consoles available, or pre-rendered movies. But since none of us have really used the controller, you're not really being biased or anything.
Tom the First
11-25-2005, 02:53 PM
I must protest that the Revolution controller has a lot more potential functionality than any other controller out there.
Arandar
11-25-2005, 04:50 PM
The other companies were ripped on last week and that's okay. But if he rips on Nintendo he's a hater, anti-Nintendo. I don't get it...
Well its nice of you to admit that you never watched G4 before in your life and have never heard of Scot or seen him on g4tv.com before meeting him here.
Blank
11-25-2005, 04:59 PM
You speak as if Nintendo has never revolutionized the industry before. I think we have something big on our hands. I'm incredibly excited and supportive of this idea.
Tedakin
11-25-2005, 05:05 PM
Well its nice of you to admit that you never watched G4 before in your life and have never heard of Scot or seen him on g4tv.com before meeting him here.
Who the hell is Scot?
Arandar
11-25-2005, 05:34 PM
Who the hell is Scot?
Your sad attempt at trying to be witty doesn't work. I still want to know what his beef with Nintendo is. If he just doesn't like the types of games they make then fine I don't have a problem with that. I DO have a problem with him just altogether ignoring them, except making fun of them, and not giving them any coverage. Which he does.
The_Raven
11-25-2005, 09:09 PM
Yes, blackwolf and I need to post some nintendo propaganda in the front page, heh.
Tulare
11-25-2005, 10:27 PM
Who the hell is Scot?
I thought it was funny.
Anyway, I think I said it a while ago. I was kind of glad at the negative responses the Revolution controller got. Just means it will be easier for me to get, and maybe have my choice of pretty much all games and accessories at launch.
With the controller possiblities I can see my Neice and Mom playing a video game together. That, to me at least, seems like a true next gen console.
InnerLogic
11-25-2005, 10:49 PM
Come on people, lets stop talking about nintendo, we ALL know that it's a failing company with bad products, let it go and lets bash some other systems, like that sony or microsoft one, whatever they have. :cool:
But really though, when i think of the 3do, i think of this (http://www.gamecrap.com/3do/pdwt/plumbers.php)
:smt078
I think the Revolution may be the first game/console I'll ever pre-order and get on the actual launch day.
The_Raven
11-26-2005, 09:20 AM
How dare you preorder a revolution! It doesn't have 50 cent bulletproof niggaz! We all know that's what everyone wants.
I have no bias against Nintendo, why aren't you defending the virtual boy?
Blank
11-26-2005, 02:45 PM
I have no bias against Nintendo, why aren't you defending the virtual boy?
I'd gladly defend the virtual boy. Got one sitting in my kitchen bar back in Arizona. :smt025
Shady45
11-26-2005, 02:56 PM
How dare you preorder a revolution! It doesn't have 50 cent bulletproof niggaz! We all know that's what everyone wants.
Indeed.
I'll prob get the Revolution along with my 360. I'll prob wait for a price drop with PS3 before I think about getting it.
Kir0s
11-26-2005, 03:25 PM
BTW, if you think the Eye Toy is a hit then your on crack.
Eye Toy has sold more than 2 million units....that pretty much made it a hit.
Tom the First
11-26-2005, 05:21 PM
BTW, if you think the Eye Toy is a hit then your on crack.
The Eye Toy rules, PEON!
It's the only thing that keeps me sane when I go to the mall (although I look absolutely insane when using it).
It's one of the reasons I'm considering to purchase a PS2 (and I don't want a PS3! Not right now at least).
Octocamo
11-26-2005, 05:31 PM
Eye Toy has sold more than 2 million units....that pretty much made it a hit.
Cause it was only $40.
Even I got one! ;P
also, why doesnt arandar show up the week we make fun of xbox360 and ps3 fanboys to make a stink. The problem with fanboys is they only see the stuff that makes them upset. Making fun of all 3 systems makes us UNBIASED. But I wouldnt expect someone like Arandar to get it.
AcquiredTarget
11-26-2005, 08:05 PM
also, why doesnt arandar show up the week we make fun of xbox360 and ps3 fanboys to make a stink. The problem with fanboys is they only see the stuff that makes them upset. Making fun of all 3 systems makes us UNBIASED. But I wouldnt expect someone like Arandar to get it.Crusaders and people with similiar mindsets (FANBOYS) suffer from Selective Blindness Syndrome.
The_Raven
11-26-2005, 08:59 PM
also, why doesnt arandar show up the week we make fun of xbox360 and ps3 fanboys to make a stink. The problem with fanboys is they only see the stuff that makes them upset. Making fun of all 3 systems makes us UNBIASED. But I wouldnt expect someone like Arandar to get it.
Because the comic sucked. :P
Tulare
11-26-2005, 09:28 PM
Because the comic sucked. :P
That may be the main thing actually. I think most people, even fanboys, will laugh it off if the get nailed by something funny. (Sorry Tedakin) I didn't really think it was funny, it was more like one of those politcal comics that was an opinion more than anything else.
The_Raven
11-26-2005, 09:54 PM
That may be the main thing actually. I think most people, even fanboys, will laugh it off if the get nailed by something funny. (Sorry Tedakin) I didn't really think it was funny, it was more like one of those politcal comics that was an opinion more than anything else.
Now that you say that I can understand why these comics arn't funny at all, it does have the political feel to it where even if you're for what it says, you just don't laugh. I can agree with what ya stated bam, they need to make it more jokester, guess thats why I laugh when people are poking fun at it and not making it seem like a world cause.
Blackwolf
11-27-2005, 11:02 AM
I guess that you gotta look at it less as if it was a Peanuts and more as if it was a Far Side. It's more irony and commentary than OMGWTFLOL. While I've taken a liking to Penny Arcade recently, I still feel that they tend to use shock value with either their art or their language to produce teh funny.
Free Play is young. Give it time to grow and find themselves. Now that they've bashed all three consoles, they can move on to other things. :D
I still e-punched Ted and Scot on behalf of all Nintendo fanboys though.
Tulare
11-27-2005, 07:48 PM
They can make the next one about how it's really Microsoft selling all the Xbox 360s on Ebay. :)
Tedakin
11-27-2005, 08:40 PM
They can make the next one about how it's really Microsoft selling all the Xbox 360s on Ebay. :)
Dats a good vun.
They can make the next one about how it's really Microsoft selling all the Xbox 360s on Ebay. :)
Yeah, that would have been a good one (You should have just PMed them the idea).
Arandar
11-29-2005, 01:25 PM
also, why doesnt arandar show up the week we make fun of xbox360 and ps3 fanboys to make a stink. The problem with fanboys is they only see the stuff that makes them upset. Making fun of all 3 systems makes us UNBIASED. But I wouldnt expect someone like Arandar to get it.
Heh this is the first time you have actually used my name here I think.
Anyway I base my comments from watching you just about ignore Nintendo on g4tv.com for two years. Need I remind you some of us on the formerly Discussion forum actually started a protest/petition against your show on this very same subject a few years back.
My problem mostly is you are saying Nintendo's next gen controller/console, which hasn't come out yet and you haven't played, is a failure and equal to things like the 3DO, Virtual Boy, and the Power Glove. Yet the add-on crap Sony makes you consider to be a hit.
The comic was a commentary on the "gimmicky" nature of Nintendo's "revolutionary" feature. The 360 is a console that supports HD resolution and has a great online service even if the games don't seem to be a "next generation" ahead. Sony has is showing pre-rendered videos to get people excited about their system..Ok. Nintendo shows NO games, No pre-rendered, just people waving a remote control around in different ways with no real visual of how that translates into a satisfying game experience. That IMO makes it ripe for a "comic" remember the word "comic" it's supposed to poke fun. I have NO BIAS against Nintendo, I like what I like, you like what you like, but there is no conspiracy to smear Nintendo. I know you have your heart set on people bashing your beloved Nintendo, because it gives you a "cause" but it's nothing more than a comic poking fun at a marketing video that Nintendo has released.
Blackwolf is right in that the comic is young, just 2 panels! So give us time, and continue to provide us feedback, and maybe we'll give you a laugh at some point.
EA is up next. :)
Arandar
11-29-2005, 01:56 PM
You also have to remember though that Nintendo has always been that way. They never show screens, and they don't use pre-rendered videos to begin with they like to keep it all in-game graphics. So its not like this should be a big shock to anyone. They like to keep thing secret and then wow everyone later.
My point more so isn't about the comic then it is about your history. You may not have a bias against Nintendo, but you do tend to ignore them. Thats what many of the Nintendo fans here didn't like about your show when you were on G4. If you don't like the games I don't have a problem with that, all I ask is that you still cover at least some of them since you tended not to on g4tv.com
Don't worry I'm not pised or anything, I wouldn't be here if I was and if I didn't support you. I was one of the first to donate way back when afterall, so its not like I'm here just for the hell of it. I like where you are going with all this, I just hope it stays about ALL the consoles and games, not just the ones you like.
Repeat after me, we did not IGNORE the gamecube or nintendo. Each week, we would sit down and look at what was new, what people were talking about etc. I remember glowing about Viewtiful Joe, and begging for Geist.
I also remember setting aside specific episodes to take calls from Nintendo fans and talk about Nintendo specifically because people felt their system was being ignored.
If ESPN doesn't give bowling and Hockey as much air time as Football and Baseball are they biased or just giving the bigger audience what they want.
You only seem to focus in on a perceived slight to nintendo and don't see the big picture.
I want a "revolution" as well, I want more systems, more choices, MORE INNOVATION. Nintendo has been asleep at the wheel IMO. The Wavebird was cool, but no online, no strategy for an online service like Xbox live is really being passed out at the wheel. Let's hope the Revolution (no HD support and word is early versions look barely better than the gamecube according to reports) does bring something new to the table to force Sony and Microsoft to innovate.
For the record I don't think adding support for old Nintendo games is all that impressive, have the members here play those games on their PC's, PDA's, and PSP's...
half the members here play those games on their PC's, PDA's, and PSP's...
LoL, I play them on thier original consoles, infact I'm about to break out the old Atari and play some Mrs. PacMan and BattleZone (I have the urge to play my Atari these past few days).
Blackwolf
11-29-2005, 04:57 PM
I guess now's not the time to mention that when I was giving away pixel blocks for a chance to win a 360 or a PSP, I asked a Nintendo trivia question, huh...
KingKRool
11-29-2005, 05:13 PM
Arandar, it's just entertainment. What you're doing now is kinda like what Jack Thompson is doing now. You're ruining good entertainment with a good speech while avoiding the fact that you are a douche.
Hendrix
11-29-2005, 05:23 PM
Don't worry I'm not pised or anything, I wouldn't be here if I was and if I didn't support you. I was one of the first to donate way back when afterall, so its not like I'm here just for the hell of it. I like where you are going with all this, I just hope it stays about ALL the consoles and games, not just the ones you like.
You are so so sad. You seem to think that all of this crap revolves around you. It doesn't.
Nobody cares wether or not you donated to the site. There are plenty of other people who donated money, who've never bothered to bring it up.
Stop acting like such a spoiled little child.
Regole
11-29-2005, 06:10 PM
EA is up next. :)
Yay, more hating on EA. =D
Tom the First
11-29-2005, 06:15 PM
I don't know if anyone has seen this yet, but here ya go. (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6797958196289648405&q=nintendohttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6797958196289648405&q=nintendo) It's the Revolution's control scheme being used on Half-Life 2 Deathmatch.
Regole
11-29-2005, 06:35 PM
I don't know if anyone has seen this yet, but here ya go. (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6797958196289648405&q=nintendohttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6797958196289648405&q=nintendo) It's the Revolution's control scheme being used on Half-Life 2 Deathmatch.
Yeah, I saw that and it looks cool. Though I imagine that the controller will be of better quality than something some guy threw together in a few minutes. Well, I hope it's better. :P
Tulare
11-29-2005, 06:43 PM
I don't know if anyone has seen this yet, but here ya go. (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6797958196289648405&q=nintendohttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6797958196289648405&q=nintendo) It's the Revolution's control scheme being used on Half-Life 2 Deathmatch.
Thanks Captain, that was cool to see. It's going to be a long 6 months or so for me.
Tom the First
11-29-2005, 10:01 PM
I must say, I really appreciate the guy cradling the 32X in the corner of the comic.
Hendrix
11-29-2005, 10:11 PM
I must say, I really appreciate the guy cradling the 32X in the corner of the comic.
Heh!! That one got me too.....Ahhhh the sweet sweet memories of Sega releasing hardware and then not supporting it.
Looks like he's using that wireless mouse we have at Best Buy, don't know what's in his left hand though.
Arandar
12-01-2005, 07:36 PM
Arandar, it's just entertainment. What you're doing now is kinda like what Jack Thompson is doing now. You're ruining good entertainment with a good speech while avoiding the fact that you are a douche.
If you really do believe me complaining about this is anything near to what Jack Thompson is doing then you are the biggest dumbass in the world.
KingKRool
12-01-2005, 08:59 PM
If you really do believe me complaining about this is anything near to what Jack Thompson is doing then you are the biggest dumbass in the world.
You're ruining good entertainment with a good speech while avoiding the fact that you are a douche.
"You're ruining good entertainment with a good speech while avoiding the fact that you are a douche"....I like that one.
Anyway I base my comments from watching you just about ignore Nintendo on g4tv.com for two years. Need I remind you some of us on the formerly Discussion forum actually started a protest/petition against your show on this very same subject a few years back.
OH TEH NOS, NOT THE INTERNET PETITION! PLS SIR! Anything but that!
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