Radio DJ Shifts

[agn]

I'd like to begin having DJ's with shifts when we aren't doing live talk shows.
You would be creating a playlist of music from our library and do some live intros and outros much like a regular music station DJ would. You will have access to prizes so you can have contests and trivia during your shows.

Late night and early morning shifts are what I'm looking for.
The live stream will have someone somewhere at the mic live 24-7.

[Stonecoldfreak1]

i would LOVE to do a couple of hours every night!

[agn]

Ok we'll do some auditions, you will have to co-ordinate your musical selections with the boss though :) You know him as the wolf.

[TigerClaw]

I think the best way to do this, Would be to pre-record the shows and adding voice over to them, For example, You make a DJ set with the songs you like, After your done, You then add the voiceovers over the recording so that you can tell the listeners whats playing on your set, If I were to do this, I would use a program called Traktor, Its a program that allows you to beatmix the tracks together using mp3 files and make them sound like a professional DJ. On top of that, You would save the recording as an mp3 file, You upload it to whoever is hosting the server so that the mp3 can be added to the playlist. Another thing, If your doing a show once a week, you will have to record new sets prior to the date that you would air, That way you have fresh new shows every week, Plus you would have to upload the shows a day or so before the actual airdates. So to do this, It takes a lot of dedication and updating your song selection in your part.

[Blackwolf]

Actually the idea that is the best logistically in the short-term is to have people decide their playlist and then record the segments in between. Then they would send me their segments and I would program it in. (Our streaming server already does smart fades between MP3's.)

I want to have a database built of our entire collection on allgames.com - we haven't exactly gotten that done yet. Once we have that database built we'll start programming some stuff to aid you in creating your custom playlist.

Right now, just due to the way we have things set up, we're not equipped to have people "go live" for reals and literally take over our radio station - but maybe in the future.

[Burr]

There's no real advantage to it being live unless you're going to allow people to make requests.

Well and contests.. But winners could be announced in the room or later on.. You could still make a contest question recorded ahead of time.

[Lord Moon]

OK sign me up, I got a face for radio! :D

[agn]

I think live is more interesting and make it more like real radio. I would say the recorded version is an audition for live. Once you feel like you can do it live we'd set it up like Gamer Andy.

[Tom the First]

I'd love to do some DJing. I could only dedicate an hour, though.

[Stonecoldfreak1]

I think live is more interesting and make it more like real radio. I would say the recorded version is an audition for live. Once you feel like you can do it live we'd set it up like Gamer Andy.


well just let us know when/how you want it auditions to be done...

[Lord Moon]

Well live from 2am I can do, since I get off work at 1am. :D

[DeadMan]

I could do some late night/early morning stuff if you want, or whenever else. But who could resist Deadman in the dead hours?

[Jordan_Hass]

Scot, Great Idea, a late night show for gamers...

and also whoever wins this "contest" if you will, i would be glad to hear you, as long as you don't sound like an episode of GameLife "uhhh the audio... listen ah"

[TigerClaw]

I could do some late night/early morning stuff if you want, or whenever else. But who could resist Deadman in the dead hours?
And speaking in that DeadMan tone of voice, Good idea, Might help me sleep better to. j/k :lol:

[Lnin0]

What type of music?

[TigerClaw]

What type of music?
Any kind of music, Whatever your into, If I was doing this, I would play a lot of House, Techno and Trance tunes since I'm heavily into electronica. :)

[Blackwolf]

Any kind of music, Whatever your into, If I was doing this, I would play a lot of House, Techno and Trance tunes since I'm heavily into electronica. :)

Actually you would be playing stuff that's in All Games Radio's library of game music, not your own stuff.

[TigerClaw]

Actually you would be playing stuff that's in All Games Radio's library of game music, not your own stuff.
Well, Scot is interested in the idea of doing it live rather then playlisting it.
I think live is more interesting and make it more like real radio. I would say the recorded version is an audition for live. Once you feel like you can do it live we'd set it up like Gamer Andy.

[Blackwolf]

Well, Scot is interested in the idea of doing it live rather then playlisting it.

You're absolutely correct, but you're limited to our playlist. While we're quoting things Scot said in this thread:

you will have to co-ordinate your musical selections with the boss though You know him as the wolf.

So, keep in mind that this is a 24/7 game music station. The idea is to run the exact same music that we have permission to, just with a live DJ.

Please note that this is in the very early planning stages, we're mainly gauging interest right now.

[TigerClaw]

Im sure it will at some point go out from the gaming music and go more towards electronic music, Since most video games nowadays have electronic music from some of the big names such as Junkie XL as well as many others, Like in the Wipeout soundtracks.

[Blackwolf]

Im sure it will at some point go out from the gaming music and go more towards electronic music, Since most video games nowadays have electronic music from some of the big names such as Junkie XL as well as many others, Like in the Wipeout soundtracks.

I have several responses to this, and all of them make me come off as an asshole.

So here's the nicest I can put it: Right now my job title with All Games Productions is Director of Music, and I am completely and absolutely against having music that is not in a video game in normal rotation on the station (which is what live DJ's would be a part of - normal rotation.) The minute the station starts adding music that "sounds" like it "might" be in a video game but actually isn't, is the moment the station starts being like every other internet radio station out there.

And no, you won't be able to convince me otherwise. So if the station goes into the direction you want it to, that's because someone else is in charge.

And see, that still came off as me being an asshole.

[GH33DA]

What's Adrian Cronauer doing these days? I think he teaches in New York.

[gk128]

Why do we need all this real music anyway. With gaming music you know what you're getting. There may be a song that sucks, but the next song will probably be better. I know I don't want to listen to shitty rave music because it SOUNDS like it COULD be from a game.

[Lord Moon]

I have several responses to this, and all of them make me come off as an asshole.

So here's the nicest I can put it: Right now my job title with All Games Productions is Director of Music, and I am completely and absolutely against having music that is not in a video game in normal rotation on the station (which is what live DJ's would be a part of - normal rotation.) The minute the station starts adding music that "sounds" like it "might" be in a video game but actually isn't, is the moment the station starts being like every other internet radio station out there.

And no, you won't be able to convince me otherwise. So if the station goes into the direction you want it to, that's because someone else is in charge.

And see, that still came off as me being an asshole.

But at least you were a nice asshole. :D

You would probably want to add that playing anything outside of what you guys have would probably get AllGames.com fined by the FCC. Something that might be not so clear to those that want to use thier own music.

Basically AllGames.com radio, under your charge, will be unique in that it only plays video game music.

Here's where it becomes gray I think. What about songs that are included in video games, but at the same time are popular music? Such as song included in Project Gotham (1, 2, & 3), Grand Turismo (2, 3, & 4), & any EA game that has "EA Tracks." Where would those songs fall?

I realize you are working within a coppyright issue here, but somebody's gonna say that those songs are part of a video game soundtrack. Case in point I have the soundtrack to Grand Turismo 2 on CD. Bought and paid for from the record store. It has Soul Choughing, Garbage, Rob Zombie, Crystal Method, and more.

I'm not trying to argue with you, just trying to get clarity. If we have video game soundtracks, would we be able to use songs off them or does AllGames.com only have certain soundtracks licenced.

[Blackwolf]

Here's where it becomes gray I think. What about songs that are included in video games, but at the same time are popular music? Such as song included in Project Gotham (1, 2, & 3), Grand Turismo (2, 3, & 4), & any EA game that has "EA Tracks." Where would those songs fall?

I have already had this very exact conversation with Scot, actually.

The biggest hurdle is that these songs are typically under RIAA jurisdiction, and we do not have an RIAA webcasting license just yet. (That's in the plan.) We have ASCAP and BMI, but not RIAA. However, that's just a technicality.

The main thing is a personal one with me and it's one I feel very strongly about - just because GTA Vice City used Welcome To The Jungle as a theme song in it's TV commercial does not make Guns N' Roses video game musicians in my mind. Just because you would have never heard Green Day's American Idiot if it wasn't in Madden doesn't make it video game music.

So, I don't put any of that into our main rotation. We HAVE already discussed having a specialty show by one of our members who ONLY plays licensed music, and the only holdup is the technicality right now. We even have the pilot and he plays Guitar Hero music from inside Guitar Hero. It's really well done. We'd just get sued by the RIAA if we played it right now.

Now, I'm not against "popular" bands who write game music at all. We DO have the Incubus songs from Halo 2 in rotation because Incubus wrote them FOR Halo 2. I have no problem with that. And I have no problem with arrangements of previously popular songs into gamemusic format (such as the Disney remakes in Kingdom Hearts.)

My goal is to promote the underappreciated musicians and composers who write video game music with the music portion of All Games Radio, and that's how I've pitched what I'm trying to do to the Game Audio Network Guild and other gamemusic entities. And that's primarily why I'm fighting to keep licensed and "game-sounding but not really from a game" music out of the normal rotation - because I've kinda already put out there that we're all REAL game music all the time to the people who actually write the music, and I really don't want to lose that focus and vision.

However, once we get that RIAA license, I have absolutely no problem with a block of time devoted to the latest EA TRAX - hell, even if it's 3 or 4 hours. But I just don't want it sprinkled in with everything else.

[Lord Moon]

OK cool. When I get the job I might have a couple tracks to have you pass judgement on, but otherwise I can work within the set standards.

[Sniper919]

Just wondering how do I get my gaming card as my signiture? See its not working could i get some help?

[chrisphil1724]

I have several responses to this, and all of them make me come off as an asshole.

So here's the nicest I can put it: Right now my job title with All Games Productions is Director of Music, and I am completely and absolutely against having music that is not in a video game in normal rotation on the station (which is what live DJ's would be a part of - normal rotation.) The minute the station starts adding music that "sounds" like it "might" be in a video game but actually isn't, is the moment the station starts being like every other internet radio station out there.

And no, you won't be able to convince me otherwise. So if the station goes into the direction you want it to, that's because someone else is in charge.

And see, that still came off as me being an asshole.

I have talked to Blackwolf about this in the past. I did a DJ pilot using licensed game music for AGR. (In fact, I have done some DJ work on broadcast radio) After doing the pilot, I took a step back to think about the show, and how the show would fit on AGR. After thinking about it, I really don't wanna hear licensed game music on AGR. Why? As Blackwolf said, if we did, the station would starts sounding like every other internet radio station out there. We would lose what makes us differnet.

[Flavius]

I have talked to Blackwolf about this in the past. I did a DJ pilot using licensed game music for AGR. (In fact, I have done some DJ work on broadcast radio) After doing the pilot, I took a step back to think about the show, and how the show would fit on AGR. After thinking about it, I really don't wanna hear licensed game music on AGR. Why? As Blackwolf said, if we did, the station would starts sounding like every other internet radio station out there. We would lose what makes us differnet.

QFT.

It isn't peanut butter and chocolate...they're not two great tastes that go together, at least in this instance.

[Tom the First]

I have one of Tommy Tallarico's CDs. :D

[Coleman]

I may be interested in doing a radio segment but i have a few questions concerning the "job".
1) There seems to be a lot of concern over whether or not it is ok to play certain types of music. Alot of this seems to be due to legality issues but it also seems to be based on a verry specific direction that the All Games community wants to keep what is being done. Is the music available only going to be available from what is in the All Games Radio Collection or will we be able to get some of our own music that is a little more obscure then what will readily be available.
2) Is it necessary to be a live radio show or would it also be an option to pre-record the show and air it at a set time? I understand the importance of doing a live talkshow but i don't really see the relevance if music is going to be the only focus for a certain amount of time. Even with prizes and what not i still am confident that i could manage to take care of a contest segment while pre-recording the show.
3) How would you feel about a "Remix" version of a song from a video game? For example if i (or anyyone else for that matter) took the Zelda theme song and digitaly altered the track so that it was still recognizable as the zelda theme, would that be conidered acceptable by the powers that be or is there a whole diferent set of legality problems where that is concerned?
4) What exactly are the requirements of the positions available?

[Blackwolf]

To answer the music questions, it's really something we're still hammering out. One of the technical hurdles is that we'd like to allow people access to our files without actually transferring it. There *MIGHT* be a way to do that, but I'm not so sure.

If you're doing a talk show, that's a different bag than being a radio DJ. We have a whole affiliate program that deals with the non-music programming, and you can submit your show or pitch to me at blackwolf@allgames.com.

I am against digital remixes of game music - I know OCRemix exists but the direction we're going is only allowing one of the following: Original game music, AUTHORIZED Remix (such as a remix found on a soundtrack CD), and Live Covers (Minibosses, Black Mages, etc.) The reason I'm against it is not because they're bad - far from it. But the moment we allow a digital remix on, we'll be inundated with people submitting their tunes for airplay, and that's not something we can handle at the moment.

The requirements are being hammered out. This is more to gauge interest and see if there are enough people who want to do it before we spend time ironing out the details.