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Mr_Pink
08-30-2004, 01:40 AM
Praise the greatest movie director of all time here! He has created such timeless classics such as:

Reservoir Dogs
Pulp Fiction
Jackie Brown
Kill Bill (1+2)

DarkKnightCecil
08-30-2004, 01:47 AM
Not to mention he wrote True romance and Natural born killers...plus he wrote, directed, and acted in half of From dusk til dawn and did the end scene for Four rooms.

He is one of my favorite directors and a damn cool individual.

arefx
08-30-2004, 02:04 AM
Yes. I don't lile all his movies though, but Hero looks good.

Snowmiser
08-30-2004, 02:18 AM
He also wrote From Dusk till Dawn. That movie is hilarious!

Mushroomheadx15
08-30-2004, 06:29 AM
All of his movies are pure gold.

MalcolmBrass
08-30-2004, 10:02 AM
Didn't care for Jackie Brown and Pulp Fiction is getting old for me (maybe I've watched it too many times). Very good: yes. A god: not even close.

Arandar
08-30-2004, 10:46 AM
Am I the only one whos not impressed by him at all? I haven't seen any of his movies, and I don't plan to either. Except Hero I'll give a rent, but I heard that its just his company bringing it over here, he never made or directed it himself. Heh so the only movie I like that he had anything to do with, its basically just from his company importing, he didn't do any of the work. Oh well to each his own I suppose.

All-Night John
08-30-2004, 10:58 AM
Am I the only one whos not impressed by him at all? I haven't seen any of his movies, and I don't plan to either.
Obviously it's not possible for you to be impressed by him if you haven't seen his films. It's idiotic to judge something you haven't seen.

Arandar
08-30-2004, 11:10 AM
Obviously it's not possible for you to be impressed by him if you haven't seen his films. It's idiotic to judge something you haven't seen.
You missed the point. I said I'm not impressed like the move doesn't appeal to me. When they show adds on tv they are trying to impress the people by the trailer and get people to see the movie. I wasn't impressed and none of the movies really seem worth going to for me. That is what I meant. Besides hes only made what 5 movies? I mean hes made a bare handful and people are trying to say hes some great movie director? He can't even light a candle when compared to Steven Spielberg who has done near, if not over, 3 dozen movies with most of them being great.

8x11
08-30-2004, 11:16 AM
First off, let me say Quentin Tarantino had nothing to do with Hero.
Here's a little something from IMDB:Miramax, the distributor, apparently cut out 20 minutes from the movie because they found that part to be "too Asian and confusing" for western audiences. Then-Miramax honcho Harvey Weinstein made a deal with Quentin Tarantino that he'd release the film uncut if Tarantino would allow a "Quentin Tarantino Presents" tag at the beginning of the film. Tarantino agreed.

His films are well done, I will admit, but it seems he tries too hard at times. This is truly evident with his releases of Kill Bill Volume 1 and 2(which were both garbage). I do not think he is as great as everyone makes him out to be. He may have been if he stuck to doing films such as his first 3. All Kill Bill did for me was Kill off his appeal.

All-Night John
08-30-2004, 11:24 AM
You missed the point. I said I'm not impressed like the move doesn't appeal to me. When they show adds on tv they are trying to impress the people by the trailer and get people to see the movie. I wasn't impressed and none of the movies really seem worth going to for me. That is what I meant. Besides hes only made what 5 movies? I mean hes made a bare handful and people are trying to say hes some great movie director? He can't even light a candle when compared to Steven Spielberg who has done near, if not over, 3 dozen movies with most of them being great.
Ah, so you judge films based on their trailers. So be it.

Mr_Pink
08-30-2004, 11:45 AM
Not to mention he wrote True romance and Natural born killers...plus he wrote, directed, and acted in half of From dusk til dawn and did the end scene for Four rooms.

He is one of my favorite directors and a damn cool individual.

Actually, he didn't direct From Dusk Till Dawn at all.

dl4ndow
08-30-2004, 03:17 PM
Tarantino is a great writer and director. Kill Bill was something different for him because he never directed an action movie before. He admits it's something different for him and a way for him to "grow." He's doing a pretty good job IMO. I wouldn't say he is a god but I would agree that he is definately on his way.

Mr_Pink
08-30-2004, 03:35 PM
Trust me, he's on his way in a big way.

DarkKnightCecil
09-01-2004, 02:46 PM
You missed the point. I said I'm not impressed like the move doesn't appeal to me. When they show adds on tv they are trying to impress the people by the trailer and get people to see the movie. I wasn't impressed and none of the movies really seem worth going to for me. That is what I meant. Besides hes only made what 5 movies? I mean hes made a bare handful and people are trying to say hes some great movie director? He can't even light a candle when compared to Steven Spielberg who has done near, if not over, 3 dozen movies with most of them being great.

quality not quantity

not saying Spielberg isn't a good director (actually he's a great director) but he's also been doing this alot longer. (although he pissed me off severely when he edited out the guns and other things in ET)

Tarantino also likes to take his time and craft his films. (he also writes, produces, gets films released in the US and pops up from time to time inbetween productions)

If you don't like it, thats fine...there are plenty of people that do.

Style
09-02-2004, 01:59 PM
My favorite movie of his is True Romance. I think I like him better as a writer than a director. still a great talent.

Arandar
09-02-2004, 02:19 PM
quality not quantity

not saying Spielberg isn't a good director (actually he's a great director) but he's also been doing this alot longer. (although he pissed me off severely when he edited out the guns and other things in ET)

Tarantino also likes to take his time and craft his films. (he also writes, produces, gets films released in the US and pops up from time to time inbetween productions)

If you don't like it, thats fine...there are plenty of people that do.
I'm not saying your not allowed to like him because I'm not a big fan of him. All I am saying is that hes not as big a deal as some people have made him out to be. I mean hes made a handful of films and people are saying hes the best director of all time. The films he did make weren't even real great either, certainly not what would be considered an "A+" feature film. To each his own, but just don't claim someone's the best there ever was when they can't even compare to some of the current greats like Spielberg.

DarkKnightCecil
09-02-2004, 02:55 PM
I'm not saying your not allowed to like him because I'm not a big fan of him. All I am saying is that hes not as big a deal as some people have made him out to be. I mean hes made a handful of films and people are saying hes the best director of all time. The films he did make weren't even real great either, certainly not what would be considered an "A+" feature film. To each his own, but just don't claim someone's the best there ever was when they can't even compare to some of the current greats like Spielberg.
Unfortunately you keep saying you don't like his films and yet you have seen none of them. It hard to argue with that.

I'm not saying he is the best director of all time but I will say he is one of the best.

As far as his movies not being an A+ feature?

On IMDBs Top 250 films:
Pulp Fiction is rated #16
Kill Bill vol 1 #60
Reservoir dogs #71
Kill Bill vol 2 #118

So 3 of his 4 movies are in the top 250.

Also, he has some of today's best actors in his films. John Travolta, Bruce Willis, Samuel L Jackson, Tim Roth, Ving Rhames, and Uma Thurman...just to name a few.

Not to mention he has single handedly brought stars into the spotlight. Would Samuel Jackson be the "BMF" if not for Pulp Fiction? Would Travolta still be doing "Look who's talking" sequels as well?

Lets not forget the Oscar nominations, critical acclaim and fan appeal.

Now, you are entitled to like whatever you like, I am not trying to force him down your throat. However, when you say his material is not A list...well, that is just plain ignorant.

Green
09-02-2004, 03:07 PM
I think a big part of the reason that Tarantino does so well is that he amalgamates tons of things that have already been done. He's really not as original and innovative as some might suggest.

That said, I do enjoy many of his films.

Wolverine9046
09-02-2004, 03:23 PM
Unfortunately you keep saying you don't like his films and yet you have seen none of them. It hard to argue with that.

I'm not saying he is the best director of all time but I will say he is one of the best.

As far as his movies not being an A+ feature?

On IMDBs Top 250 films:
Pulp Fiction is rated #16
Kill Bill vol 1 #60
Reservoir dogs #71
Kill Bill vol 2 #118

So 3 of his 4 movies are in the top 250.

Also, he has some of today's best actors in his films. John Travolta, Bruce Willis, Samuel L Jackson, Tim Roth, Ving Rhames, and Uma Thurman...just to name a few.

Not to mention he has single handedly brought stars into the spotlight. Would Samuel Jackson be the "BMF" if not for Pulp Fiction? Would Travolta still be doing "Look who's talking" sequels as well?

Lets not forget the Oscar nominations, critical acclaim and fan appeal.

Now, you are entitled to like whatever you like, I am not trying to force him down your throat. However, when you say his material is not A list...well, that is just plain ignorant.

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Arandar
09-03-2004, 11:00 AM
Unfortunately you keep saying you don't like his films and yet you have seen none of them. It hard to argue with that.

I'm not saying he is the best director of all time but I will say he is one of the best.

As far as his movies not being an A+ feature?

On IMDBs Top 250 films:
Pulp Fiction is rated #16
Kill Bill vol 1 #60
Reservoir dogs #71
Kill Bill vol 2 #118

So 3 of his 4 movies are in the top 250.

Also, he has some of today's best actors in his films. John Travolta, Bruce Willis, Samuel L Jackson, Tim Roth, Ving Rhames, and Uma Thurman...just to name a few.

Not to mention he has single handedly brought stars into the spotlight. Would Samuel Jackson be the "BMF" if not for Pulp Fiction? Would Travolta still be doing "Look who's talking" sequels as well?

Lets not forget the Oscar nominations, critical acclaim and fan appeal.

Now, you are entitled to like whatever you like, I am not trying to force him down your throat. However, when you say his material is not A list...well, that is just plain ignorant.
And IMDB is? My guess is its some sort of group that rate movies, however its still not what is considered that top organization with American Film Institute, I believe thats the name. According to their top 100 movies I don't think Pulp Fiction was even on the list. Or it might have been down below, I forget since I saw theri top 100 last year, but it certainly wasn't number 16. As for the actors, everyone has some of the top best actors in their films nowadays, so thats not anything to really brag about anymore. Give them 20-25 million bucks and they'll be in ANYTHING, regardless of how shitty. (I'm not saying his films are shitty)

Anyway my point is, Tarentine seems to apply to just a niche crowd. The crowd that absolutly loves violence with a tiny bit of story. If he appealed to more people then the actual movies sales fort he boxoffice would reflect that. As I said before, you can like who you want I don't care thats up to you, but just don't think someone is better then they are because you love a few of their movies. You don't see me claiming George Lucas is the best director ever, and I really love Star Wars.

All-Night John
09-03-2004, 11:32 AM
Tiny bit of story? In Tarantino's movies? Hahahaha, that's a good one. Please, Arandar, stop talking about things you admittedly have no knowledge of. And do you really consider a movie's box office take to be any type of indicator of the film's quality? Alien Vs. Predator has grossed over $73 million. But if you really want to get into that, here's Tarantino's box office numbers:

Reservoir Dogs: $2,832,029 - Widest release (great relevance, here): 61 theaters

Pulp Fiction: Domestic: $107,928,762 - Overseas: $106,000,000 - Total: $213,928,762

Jackie Brown: $39,673,162

Kill Bill Vol. 1: Domestic: $70,099,045 - Overseas: $110,850,000 - Total: $180,949,045

Kill Bill Vol. 2: Domestic: $66,208,183 - Overseas: $85,180,000 - Total: $151,388,183

As for actors doing his films for the money, that's just laughable. Reservoir Dogs budget was $1.2 million. Pulp Fiction's was $8 million. $12 million for Jackie Brown. Actors do his movies because they know that the story is good, and the characters are great. They know they will be respected for their role.

And IMDB stands for Internet Movie Database, probably the most respected and useful site for all things movie related. Except for news.

Also, I'm sorry your memory is so poor, but Pulp Fiction did manage to crack AFI's Top 100. It came in at #95.

Edit: Hey Cecil, Pulp Fiction's up to #15 on IMDB. :wink: Glad I'm going to see it tonight.

Tom the First
09-03-2004, 11:37 AM
Tiny bit of story? In Tarantino's movies? Hahahaha, that's a good one. Please, Arandar, stop talking about things you admittedly have no knowledge of. And do you really consider a movie's box office take to be any type of indicator of the film's quality? Alien Vs. Predator has grossed over $73 million. But if you really want to get into that, here's Tarantino's box office numbers:

Reservoir Dogs: $2,832,029 - Widest release (great relevance, here): 61 theaters

Pulp Fiction: Domestic: $107,928,762 - Overseas: $106,000,000 - Total: $213,928,762

Jackie Brown: $39,673,162

Kill Bill Vol. 1: Domestic: $70,099,045 - Overseas: $110,850,000 - Total: $180,949,045

Kill Bill Vol. 2: Domestic: $66,208,183 - Overseas: $85,180,000 - Total: $151,388,183

As for actors doing his films for the money, that's just laughable. Reservoir Dogs budget was $1.2 million. Pulp Fiction's was $8 million. $12 million for Jackie Brown. Actors do his movies because they know that the story is good, and the characters are great. They know they will be respected for their role.

And IMDB stands for Internet Movie Database, probably the most respected and useful site for all things movie related. Except for news.

Also, I'm sorry your memory is so poor, but Pulp Fiction did manage to crack AFI's Top 100. It came in at #95.

Edit: Hey Cecil, Pulp Fiction's up to #15 on IMDB. :wink: Glad I'm going to see it tonight.
I don't think you can argue with that.

Carps
09-03-2004, 11:44 AM
For those who feel he is unimpressive...what he did, honestly, was create a whole genra simply known as "Tarentino"....you can tell it's his movie simply by the way the characters talk. Much like David Mamet has "Mamet-Speak" in his plays and movies, Tarentino will always be known for the way his characters talk.

Green
09-03-2004, 03:29 PM
You don't see me claiming George Lucas is the best director ever, and I really love Star Wars.

I've never seen Star Wars so you won't see me posting my opinion about it. Maybe you should follow the same path.

Sir Psycho
09-03-2004, 07:30 PM
And IMDB is? My guess is its some sort of group that rate movies, however its still not what is considered that top organization with American Film Institute, I believe thats the name. According to their top 100 movies I don't think Pulp Fiction was even on the list. Or it might have been down below, I forget since I saw theri top 100 last year, but it certainly wasn't number 16. As for the actors, everyone has some of the top best actors in their films nowadays, so thats not anything to really brag about anymore. Give them 20-25 million bucks and they'll be in ANYTHING, regardless of how shitty. (I'm not saying his films are shitty)

Anyway my point is, Tarentine seems to apply to just a niche crowd. The crowd that absolutly loves violence with a tiny bit of story. If he appealed to more people then the actual movies sales fort he boxoffice would reflect that. As I said before, you can like who you want I don't care thats up to you, but just don't think someone is better then they are because you love a few of their movies. You don't see me claiming George Lucas is the best director ever, and I really love Star Wars.

AFI's Top 100 movies of all time...

95. PULP FICTION (1994)

now shut the fuck up all ready.

Oh and don't say look how low on the list it is, think of it as how many movies it beat to get on that list.

For the record, I personally have only seen 2 movies of his (The Kill Bill movies, which is only on movie, and Pulp Fiction), so I can't voice an opinion, I thought Kill Bill (though good) was a little overated and Pulp Fiction was deserving of the oscars it got.

DarthEvilDude
09-04-2004, 02:59 AM
oh man i love tarantino. The one reason why his movies are so freakin awesome is because of one thing: Tarantino Moments. For example, everybody walking in slow motion in Reservior Dogs, Ezekiel 25:17 in Pulp Fiction, the huge battle scene in KB Vol 1... and there might've been one in vol 2

Mr_Pink
09-07-2004, 08:20 PM
Has anybody else noticed that Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs have been playing quite a bit on Spike TV lately?

HLK
09-12-2004, 03:25 AM
He's a love him or hate him director, Some people like his style others dispise it, I am one who likes it, I love resirviour dogs. My mom on the other hand can't stand his movies, I don't know where my dad stands on this, but he wants reserviour dogs.

Lord Moon
09-12-2004, 05:53 AM
And IMDB is? My guess is its some sort of group that rate movies, however its still not what is considered that top organization with American Film Institute, I believe thats the name. According to their top 100 movies I don't think Pulp Fiction was even on the list. Or it might have been down below, I forget since I saw theri top 100 last year, but it certainly wasn't number 16. As for the actors, everyone has some of the top best actors in their films nowadays, so thats not anything to really brag about anymore. Give them 20-25 million bucks and they'll be in ANYTHING, regardless of how shitty. (I'm not saying his films are shitty)

Anyway my point is, Tarentine seems to apply to just a niche crowd. The crowd that absolutly loves violence with a tiny bit of story. If he appealed to more people then the actual movies sales fort he boxoffice would reflect that. As I said before, you can like who you want I don't care thats up to you, but just don't think someone is better then they are because you love a few of their movies. You don't see me claiming George Lucas is the best director ever, and I really love Star Wars.

Arandar this has got to be the worst arguement you have ever thought about starting. You come into a thread about a director of whose movies you have admited you have never seen, have no idea of how he's rated under the listing you feel is a the best source, have no knowledge of what IMDB is & feel you have some sort of actual thought on the man & his movies? You either have balls the size of watermelons or the brain the size of a walnut. If you are going to argue something, please do some research & bring something to table or don't come at all. Because all you are doing otherwise is wasting people's time.

You have to stop being lazy and start getting some knowledge. And if you try to pull the "it's my opinion" card forget it. By stating you have never seen his movies means you have no base to form an opinion on.

Now go rent some movies.

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