I seriously, Just don't fucking get women.

[Ender]

. . .

To cut a very long story short, My best friend is a female. She was the first person I met when I moved here nearly 4 years ago, and has been the closest friend I could have ever asked for.

Anyways, after these 3 years, I've seen her boyfriends come, and her boyfriends go. But the most recent one really kicks me in the jaw. He cheated on her twice, yet she was still head over heals for him.

A while ago, he called things off. She was heartbroken, and that whole spiele.

Today, I ask her out.

No.

I seriously don't get it. She goes on to say how I'm the funniest, most interesting person she's ever met, and that she enjoys every second we spend together. Yet, Denied.


I really, Just don't fucking get it.

:-x

[DarthEvilDude]

welcome to the real world. Women are impossible to understand. It makes me glad i dont have a vagina.

[Ender]

welcome to the real world. Women are impossible to understand. It makes me glad i dont have a vagina.


Wow, Joe, that's like... The best fucking quote ever.

[The Host]

Simply put,the vast majority of girls are retarded.
See this thread for further proof http://www.allgames.com/showthread.php?t=1690
For some reason girls seem to really dig asshole's.
The worse the guy treats them,they more they think they love him.
And the guys that would never cheat on them are in their eyes "the funniest, most interesting person she's ever met, and that she enjoys every second we spend together".

[Ender]

Simply put,the vast majority of girls are retarded.
See this thread for further proof http://www.allgames.com/showthread.php?t=1690
For some reason girls seem to really dig asshole's.
The worse the guy treats them,they more they think they love him.
And the guys that would never cheat on them are in their eyes "the funniest, most interesting person she's ever met, and that she enjoys every second we spend together".

Meh, true.

Living the majority of my life in the south, You'd think I'd pick up that girls dig the dumbasses.

I must say I enjoyed how you plugged your thread, which I loved btw.

:wink:

[AcquiredTarget]

Could be worse, she could've called you a nice guy. If you were a steak, you'd be medium done.

[arefx]

Yeah, be thankful she didn't pull that "your a nice guy" crap. All that means is you suck :(.

Women do suck... well untill you find the right one that is. She sounds naive though, she probably doesn't realize that love doesnt mean "I wanna fuck him so bad". It means you love spending time fo that person and cares for them, which im sure aplies to you. Just give it time, if it's meant it is, if its not, its not.

Until then, you have your hand.

[The Host]

Meh, true.

Living the majority of my life in the south, You'd think I'd pick up that girls dig the dumbasses.

I must say I enjoyed how you plugged your thread, which I loved btw.

:wink:Yeah,I figure might as well give you some solid evidence of how girls think.
Because from her commentary in the video he hasn't treated her very well,but she will always love him.
LOL I swear girls need electro-shock therapy the minute they turn 13.
Oy,don't even talk about the South being born and raised in the South as I was.
Well I still have nightmares.

[Ender]

Yeah,I figure might as well give you some solid evidence of how girls think.
Because from her talk he hasn't treated her very well,but she will always love him.
LOL I swear girls need electro-shock therapy the minute they turn 13.
Oy,don't even talk about the South being born and raised in the South as I was.
Well I still have nightmares.


Try living in Alabama and South Carolina.
Hell-On-Earth.

[The Host]

Try living in Alabama and South Carolina.
Hell-On-Earth.
Nashville :smt012

[kirkg]

It's hard to see it now man but you wouldn't want to be with that type of girl anyway, the type of girl who allows dudes to do that to her. With those types of girls, if you don't hurt them, they get bored and leave you. So promising to treat her good would just make her cheat on you, and that would hurt even worse. That's just how it really is. You'll find yourself a nice girl someday that will love you as much as you love her.

This is also why it's impossible to just be friends with girls. It doesn't work.

[Octocamo]

Eh... I probably won't get a girlfriend until later on, maybe 12th grade, who knows? (Most girls think I'm a loser. :P)

They're difficult to understand. Even my Mom is.... :lol:

But anyways, That sucks. Maybe she really likes you but doesn't want to admit it by going out with you? I have no clue, no experience. :P

[kirkg]

No.. she doesn't like him. Not sexually anyways, and that's all that really counts.

[Octocamo]

No.. she doesn't like him. Not sexually anyways, and that's all that really counts.

Well, maybe to her. Damn bitches.:lol:

[KingKongSushi]

That really sucks. I feel for you dude. Women are the most difficult thing in the world to figure out.

[AcquiredTarget]

Props to you for taking the step and. That's a great. When the time comes, it'll hit ya like a freakin' bus.

[Stonecoldfreak1]

It's hard to see it now man but you wouldn't want to be with that type of girl anyway, the type of girl who allows dudes to do that to her. With those types of girls, if you don't hurt them, they get bored and leave you. So promising to treat her good would just make her cheat on you, and that would hurt even worse. That's just how it really is. You'll find yourself a nice girl someday that will love you as much as you love her.

This is also why it's impossible to just be friends with girls. It doesn't work.

well that changed my perspective on things...

[Ziggler]

It's hard to see it now man but you wouldn't want to be with that type of girl anyway, the type of girl who allows dudes to do that to her. With those types of girls, if you don't hurt them, they get bored and leave you. So promising to treat her good would just make her cheat on you, and that would hurt even worse. That's just how it really is. You'll find yourself a nice girl someday that will love you as much as you love her.

This is also why it's impossible to just be friends with girls. It doesn't work.

Wow kirk just said something sensible and meaningful... :smt005

[kirkg]

I'm just trying to help a brother out.

[Style]

girls wont date a guy that is their friend, cuz once your their friend, they'll stop looking at you in that way.

and in a way, you should be thankful. if you guys went out and for whatever reason it didnt work out, then your friendship would have possibly been over too.

[Stonecoldfreak1]

girls wont date a guy that is their friend, cuz once your their friend, they'll stop looking at you in that way.

and in a way, you should be thankful. if you guys went out and for whatever reason it didnt work out, then your friendship would have possibly been over too.

yeah but what is it going to be like now?

[kirkg]

their friendship is likely over now too. I would end the friendship at this point if it was me in his shoes. I've done it before. It's best to just let those girls go.

[Mr_Pink]

God, who gets women, I know I don't.

[Style]

yeah but what is it going to be like now?

not as awkward as it would have if they've gone out. but now that I do think about it. I have ended friendships with girls after asking them out.

[Stonecoldfreak1]

yeah me and this one girl "went out" because she really liked me and i just didnt like her at all more than a friend. it ended after a week but its really fuckin awkward still being friends and stuff. ive always acted 'different' around her and its even more of that now.

[True]

not as awkward as it would have if they've gone out. but now that I do think about it. I have ended friendships with girls after asking them out.
Same here, it just feels funny afterwards.
Stonecold, that's how it was with the first girl I ever dated. Infact I only dated her cause a friend of mine dated this other chick and they said if they dated, they wanted me to get with her (it was elementry school, go figure). She like me forever, so I did, it lasted for two weeks. I found out my friend had broken up (the bastered didn't even tell me) so I ended up breaking up with the girl, it felt bad (and looked bad for me for a while, with all her friends lol).

[Stonecoldfreak1]

she has the impression that she has another chance too so yeah not good...

[SaNkOn-TeSsOu]

what part of south carolina? I went to highschool in Spartanburg and College in Charleston.......

[Green]

I seriously don't get it. She goes on to say how I'm the funniest, most interesting person she's ever met, and that she enjoys every second we spend together. Yet, Denied.

Dating relationships end, usually horribly. Friendships usually don't and if they do it's because people drift apart amiacably. She enjoys your time so much that she wants to keep you around more.

You guys have also been friends for so long that she doesn't have the same sort of attraction to you that would be required in a dating relationship. It'd be like kissing her brother.


As for the rest of you dudes, ...

[Ender]

what part of south carolina? I went to highschool in Spartanburg and College in Charleston.......
Lexington, atm. (15 min west of capital)

I lived in spartanburg when I was younger.

4-7, I beleive.

Meh, Anyways. . . She made a shirt for me today. A real kickass one to.
So ghettofabulous, but I like it. :)


This week marks the football team's first homegame, I've got a few other female on radar. Hopefully I'll be able to stir something up.

[DarthEvilDude]

if i know you, thats not all you'll be doing

oooooohhhh riiight

ok, i was hanging out with one of my friends after school, and the girl that he was intrested in did somewhat the same thing that happened to you. well, the thing was, she would use my friend for anything. last year, he must've spent over 200 bucks on her, and he was trying to win her over, and then she went to some asshole that always harrased her, and then got fucked by him! Now if you think your deal is messed up, think again.

This is exactly what Vaginas do to people.

[TwiztidICP]

ok, i was hanging out with one of my friends after school, and the girl that he was intrested in did somewhat the same thing that happened to you. well, the thing was, she would use my friend for anything. last year, he must've spent over 200 bucks on her, and he was trying to win her over, and then she went to some asshole that always harrased her, and then got fucked by him! Now if you think your deal is messed up, think again.

This is exactly what Vaginas do to people.


I done the same thing a few years ago. I bought this girl many things and I gave her $100 and I never got a damn thank you out of it. She said that she liked me and wanted to date but the next day she would treat me like shit. She finally moved back to Florida and I would call her every other week and she would call but that came to a end on her part anyway.

[Style]

if its a girl you dont know, then dont spend money on her. but I dont think theres anything wrong with spending money on your gf. I wouldnt call it a waste.

[Komposit]

Simply put,the vast majority of girls are retarded.
See this thread for further proof http://www.allgames.com/showthread.php?t=1690
For some reason girls seem to really dig asshole's.
The worse the guy treats them,they more they think they love him.
And the guys that would never cheat on them are in their eyes "the funniest, most interesting person she's ever met, and that she enjoys every second we spend together".

Sadly it's true. I don't get it, personally...

[Larry]

You gotta be assholes to them. At least it works for me. If you're a whiny pussy and make them laugh, listen to their problems, etc they aren't going to even consider you for dating or sexual purposes. If they know you're an asshole and you don't have a great personality, you're therefore able to be exploited sexually and thrown away.

It's quite an amazing circle really. You gotta live full circle friends. :smt065

[kirkg]

You sure you get girls Larry? The stuff you said isn't exactly all true. I listen to my new girlfriend, and when she's done talking she'll do what she can to make me feel good. Being a 100 percent asshole doesn't get you anything, so if you say you are and that you get girls you're lying.

[Style]

Well Larry shares one view. I don't disagree with what he said if you are lookin to get girls, but not if your looking to get girls for long term relationships.

I mean, back in my party days I would have an attitude like "Yeah I'm gonna bang that slut at the next party" or "I'm gonna go out with her, and then I can find someone else when I bang her". That worked when I was in high school and it did get me laid a lot. but none of my high school relationships were stable.

Now I'm in a very serious relationship with my gf. And I always buy her gifts, I listen to her, and I know I would do anything for her because of our love for each other.

so basically, bein an asshole will get you a girl to sleep with for a while, or someone to party with. but if your looking to settle down and find something stable, bein a dick isnt going to get you anywhere.

so its all up to what your looking for.

[True]

Yeah Style, I agree with your last statement, BUT I do believe it's my time to be an asshole cause I've been the "Nice" guy forever. Yeah I had a few nice looking GF's (highschool cheerleader captain) and they liked me for being the nice guy, but I had WAY more hot girls AS friends who like that I listened to them, talked to them like a respectable guy like my parents taught me to, and wasn't trying to bang every time I was around them. Some of them I really liked, but the whole friendship thing got in the way. But I too am at fault because I turned some of them down cause I liked them more as a friend. I just wanna try just being a tottal ass to she what happens...it's soo hard for me though lol especially being a laid back shy type of guy.

To be honest, I use the "Nice" guy act a lot but it just doesn't work as good as being an ass towards them.

[Style]

yeah I totally understand that. I was just saying that if your already in a relationship, its not a good time to be an asshole.

other than that, yeah, go for it.

[kirkg]

Nice guy act works for me. I get all the cute girls that are sick of the assholes.

[Killer]

the thing is she probably feels weird going out with a good friend

[True]

Nice guy act works for me. I get all the cute girls that are sick of the assholes.
LoL. It does work for me for the most part, for some reason girls DO see something in the quiet...........mysterious guy who's fairly attractive lol.

[Stonecoldfreak1]

LoL. It does work for me for the most part, for some reason girls DO see something in the quiet...........mysterious guy who's fairly attractive lol.

yeah i cant get this girl to go away even though i said i dont want to be with anyone right now! :\

[True]

yeah i cant get this girl to go away even though i said i dont want to be with anyone right now! :\
That's funny, it's happened to me. Want some girls, yet turn down some. It's crazy.

[Stonecoldfreak1]

yeah im gonna tell her off on tuesday because i cant stand her. she is always saying shit like "yeah he doesnt like people thats why i love him". it fucking pisses me off. plus shes like the typical teenager too "blah blah blah i hate my parents" JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP!

[mr_insobriety]

Meh, stay single, you'll die younger, and richer. And a hell of a lot more happier.

[Style]

Meh, stay single, you'll die younger, and richer. And a hell of a lot more happier.

I used to feel that way, but believe me when you find the right girl you'll realize how unhappy you were when you were single, and you only thought you knew what happiness is.

[viking66]

the trick to really get her is to put a little distance between you and her and get a girlfriend.. women always want the wanted.. keep in touch with her and even go out with her as friends but always choose your girlfriend first.. sounds like a game and it is.. the outcome will be either she will want more than just friendship out of you or you will find a girl that satisfies you and you will move on..

[Kahmelion]

Trust me, I know women are difficult as the very least, but just hang in there...My fiancee' was my best friend for about 7 years before ANYTHING came of it...I didn't ask her out, she didn't ask me out, it just evolved. Trust me, let it ride and if thing are going to come to fruition then they will...I promise...and yeah, women are fucked up.

~Kahmelion

[BigEasyWhoDats]

ok guys here this a is a little passage i wrote called nice guys finish last:

NICE GUYS FINISH LAST

It’s amazing that assholes can get girls. Actually, now that I think of it, it’s not that amazing. They are assholes at heart, but to meet girls they lavish their undying love. IT’S A CHARADE. They act nice, friendly, and they listen… until they get into what they’re after. Their prey thinks they are in love with them, however when they realize what assholes their predators really are, they pretend like the asshole is really nice inside. The girl tries to change the asshole into a nice guy, but assholes will always be assholes. She gets upset and goes to the nice guy to complain about the asshole. But she claims to love the asshole… now this is where the theory begins. She doesn’t want to look like she is easy so she wont dump the asshole right away, instead she will stay with the asshole. Girls are idiots. They don’t realize that the nice guy has been there all along. He never had to pretend to be a good guy to get girls because he is naturally like that. However, girls don’t see it for some reason or another. They look at the nice guy as a friend, a trusted companion to whom they can tell their sad story to about their asshole boyfriend. But the nice guy isn’t THAT naïve. He was trying to score with the girl he listens to all along. The problem is that since he is a nice guy he keeps listening. Since girls get attached to things that pay attention to them, they think of the nice guy as a friend. A FRIEND. They don’t say, “Oh he’s hot” or “I want to have his children” about the nice guy, they just want the emotional support. When they get the emotional support from the nice guy, they don’t need it from the asshole. The nice guy gets the shit end of the stick while the asshole gets all the action. I am starting to wonder if being a nice guy is really the route to take to get action… I have been down this path for all of my post-pubescent life and it has gotten me NOWHERE… at least not in the women department. Perhaps another reason why girls fall for the asshole is because assholes ignore the girl they are with. The women wonder, “Why isn’t he paying attention to me?” so they explore why. They poke and prod and get closer to the asshole. They start to get easier with each attempt to get closer. The asshole finally says, “I’ve let this beauty dangle long enough, time to boat this bass”. It is then he puts on his charade and the girl feels like she has won him… even thought all she has won is an asshole. Once you have gone down the path as a nice guy or a “listener” you can’t turn back. The girl will always go after the assholes because there are always nice guys there to listen. Once you realize that you are a “listener” you cant do anything about it… just pack up and close shop. There is no way you will get into her pants… ever. There is and never will be a situation where the nice guy will get the girl he has a crush on. It just doesn’t work like that. The girl wont “come to her senses” and realize what an asshole her boyfriend is like in the movies… instead she will just go after another asshole, and unless you stop being a nice guy, she will never go after you. Women complain that there are no nice guys in the world. Right. They are obviously not looking hard enough because there are nice guys EVERYWHERE!!!! Girls aren’t looking for nice guys… they say they are but they’re not. They are looking for the perfect asshole, but there is NO SUCH THING as the perfect asshole. All in all, the nice guy gets the shaft. To all the girls out there with boyfriends that don’t treat you with respect, that don’t listen to you, and that don’t care about you I say this; look next to you. The guy that has been standing next to you the whole time is the guy you have been looking for. He is what you want your asshole to be like. He knows more about you than you know about yourself… because he has listened to it all.

[kirkg]

LoL. It does work for me for the most part, for some reason girls DO see something in the quiet...........mysterious guy who's fairly attractive lol.

For me it's not really about being quiet. I don't know why quiet guy = nice guy. Like, I can be really obnoxious and abbrasive in person. It's just that I tell them things like "I don't like one night stands because I like to have a connection on an emotional level with someone" and they think I'm sweet. It's too funny.

hahahaha.

[mr_insobriety]

A trouble with being a nice guy is being the type who comes across as not making any decisions. Example, you have a date and you're trying to decide where to go. You happen to like a wide range of cuisines, so you're agreeable to any choices. You say that anything she decides is fine. You can get away with this for a few dinners, but eventually she'll decide that you can incapable of making a decision. Or she won't. Another example, you seen as answering just to please her so you'll get another date.

While being a nice guy is great, most of the time, nice guys sleep alone. I'm not saying to act/be a total jackass, but beware the potential impressions a being a nice guy can cause. Be yourself, if that doesn't do it, then forget 'em and move on.

[KingKongSushi]

I am a really nice guy, and I get along with everyone. I actually enjoy listening to people, and am sweet in a way. Thing is, I used to be an obnoxious douchebag, and now that part of me is starting to emerge again. So I am sort of a balance between the nice guy and asshole. Works out great! :)

[True]

For me it's not really about being quiet. I don't know why quiet guy = nice guy. Like, I can be really obnoxious and abbrasive in person. It's just that I tell them things like "I don't like one night stands because I like to have a connection on an emotional level with someone" and they think I'm sweet. It's too funny.

hahahaha.
haha, well, I'm mostly quiet around new people, mostly girls that I don't know, but once we get talking I'm all good. I'm with you on the one night stand, not saying that it wouldn't happen but it has yet to happen with me, I like to know the girls.....at least 2-3 days lol. I get the "you're sweet and quiet" all the time.

[True]

A trouble with being a nice guy is being the type who comes across as not making any decisions. Example, you have a date and you're trying to decide where to go. You happen to like a wide range of cuisines, so you're agreeable to any choices. You say that anything she decides is fine. You can get away with this for a few dinners, but eventually she'll decide that you can incapable of making a decision. Or she won't. Another example, you seen as answering just to please her so you'll get another date.

While being a nice guy is great, most of the time, nice guys sleep alone. I'm not saying to act/be a total jackass, but beware the potential impressions a being a nice guy can cause. Be yourself, if that doesn't do it, then forget 'em and move on.
I had this problem! I think I can be too nice sometimes and it hurts my "game" lol. Like I catch myself agree with evrything they want (what movie to see, what restaurant to go to, ect.) I just want to please her.

[mr_insobriety]

I had this problem! I think I can be too nice sometimes and it hurts my "game" lol. Like I catch myself agree with evrything they want (what movie to see, what restaurant to go to, ect.) I just want to please her.That's the perception problem right there. Whether you're trying (consciously/unconciously) trying to please them, or you're amenable/agreeable to a wide range of options (food/movies/etc) it will eventually turn a lot of women off. The annoying thing is not catching it. And if that's who you really are,......oh well, "game over", you might as well build a fire and sing some songs.

[Halo Master Chief]

she goes for the looks... and apparently.. you aint got none sugar. :)

[kirkg]

You're right about not making decisions, they hate that. I make a lot of the decisions with my newest girl, like where we're driving to or what we should do or what movie we should see and what type of soda to drink at the movie. She likes it that way.

Wait a second, women are just lazy when it comes to decisions.

[Stonecoldfreak1]

i hate making decisions because i just dont give a fuck! yeah i hate that shit.

[Style]

my girl doesnt care if i let her make all the decisions, except when it comes to the bedroom, that is one place where she likes me to take over.

[True]

You're right about not making decisions, they hate that. I make a lot of the decisions with my newest girl, like where we're driving to or what we should do or what movie we should see and what type of soda to drink at the movie. She likes it that way.

Wait a second, women are just lazy when it comes to decisions.
I don't think so, I think it's some kind of ploy they have. They ask you something but they already have the answer in mind, just trying to see where you are.

[True]

i hate making decisions because i just dont give a fuck! yeah i hate that shit.
same here, the reason I agree soo much is cause I really don't care what we do (well sometimes I do with what movie we see), I'm fine with whatever.

[kirkg]

I really don't care either but if I don't make decisions she'll think I'm a pussy.

There's something liberating about making decisions though, like, it's easy when whatever you say goes. It's a lot easier than wondering if you made the right decision.

[HLK]

Well you have it better then me, okay, I am pretty good looking, I am not super hot, but I am not ugly, all the girls I want to ask out are going out with some one, so I never ask, not to mention, I am super shy so it would be hard for me to even ask. You have it slightly better then me, my friend.

[True]

Well you have it better then me, okay, I am pretty good looking, I am not super hot, but I am not ugly, all the girls I want to ask out are going out with some one, so I never ask, not to mention, I am super shy so it would be hard for me to even ask. You have it slightly better then me, my friend.
If you read everything here, you'll see that you are in the reight club here lol.

[Ender]

Omg, for real.

I'm done with her.
I'm just going to give up.
Partly because, I've dealt with the stress too long, and partly because a found a new chick to swoon over.

:)
Oh man.
:)

[Style]

Omg, for real.

I'm done with her.
I'm just going to give up.
Partly because, I've dealt with the stress too long, and partly because a found a new chick to swoon over.

:)
Oh man.
:)

:D

good luck. Finding another girl is the best way to move on.

[Dualist]

Yeah it is true that being a nice guy 100% isnt going to work, the woman would walk all over you.

I do feel that no one will ever understand women. Some days you think they like you, but then they don't

[Ender]

Dualist, Too true :)

:D

good luck. Finding another girl is the best way to move on.

Yeah, Moving in.
I've shown her some art of mine, she digs it. We are into the same music, and I'm about to purchase a guitar from her.

:biggrin:

[True]

I do feel that no one will ever understand women. Some days you think they like you, but then they don't

Yup, I've seen that happen :(

[Style]

Dualist, Too true :)



Yeah, Moving in.
I've shown her some art of mine, she digs it. We are into the same music, and I'm about to purchase a guitar from her.

:biggrin:

sounds good. I love meeting girls who are into the same music.

[Ender]

sounds good. I love meeting girls who are into the same music.


Ha, You have no idea HOW into this I am.
I live in a hick town, in South Carolina. Everyone here listens to country, or screamo (how the fuck they got into that, I have no idea)

Somehow, this chick digs Bad Religion and some other various punk bands, as well as some select metal.

I'm amazed that we have same interest. :smt054

[Dualist]

I'm amazed that every girl likes Maroon 5...oh wait. :smt009