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Agriel
10-19-2007, 05:06 AM
Microsoft, according to insiders at Toshiba owner of the HD DVD patents, claim that Microsoft is working on a brand new Xbox that will incorporate not only a new HD DVD drive but a large hard drive and new entertainment software that is a spin off from its struggling media centre offering.

The device is being developed in response to the PS3 driving sales of games software and Blu-ray content in several countries. A recent Sony Brand Wave study conducted in five countries including the UK, Australia, France Germany and Spain revealed that a key reason that consumers are buying a PS3 is because it includes a Blu-ray player.

Recent GFK research reveals that the recently launched Xbox 360 HD DVD attach player is not selling well. Another factor that impacted early sales of the Xbox 360 was that Microsoft failed to include a HDMI port - omitted because Microsoft wanted to cut down the costs of the console in an effort to compete up against the PS3.

The new Xbox device, while allowing for extensive gaming capability, will be positioned as an entertainment hub that includes gaming and extensive wireless networking capability as well as 1080p playback. There is also talk of it including a dual HD TV tuner and EPG capability and a docking port for an MP3 player. For Toshiba, the device is critical if it is to be successful in beating Sony and the Blu-ray promoters.

Also being discussed is the development of an open standard docking port similar to the 17 pin iPod port. This would allow all manufacturers to use the same port for docking.
A senior Toshiba executive in Singapore told SmartHouse that "An Xbox with a built in HD DVD drive is critical. They and we are working on it. It also has to be more than a gaming machine. Microsoft recognise this. A version of the device may also be sold under the Toshiba brand name".

Scott Browning, the Marketing Director of JB HiFi Australia's second largest consumer electronics retailer said, "The device is a lay down mis`ere and essential for the HD DVD camp. We are told that one is coming. The PS3 has been extremely successful for Sony in getting Blu-ray off the ground and for Microsoft, the omission of a built in HD DVD player is set to hurt sales going forward as consumers are aware that the PS3 comes with a Blu-ray player."

Both Toshiba and Microsoft have also explored the possibility of a new open standard chassis system that allows an Xbox to be slotted into a HD TV screen over 40-inch. The open standard bays will allow hard drives to be upgraded and expanded similar to the way that users can upgrade the hard drive on a PC.

Another big problem for Microsoft according to insiders is getting the heat and noise output from the current Xbox 360 under control so that the new device can run silently while a movie is being played. It is known that Toshiba has been working with Microsoft on this issue as it has extensive experience in notebooks and "quiet" drives. Currently most iPods incorporate a Toshiba drive.

Another benefit for Microsoft in moving to a new Xbox platform is that it can introduce new components that are less likely to fail. Currently the PS3 has a failure rate of under two percent. Recently Microsoft was forced to allow for a $1.3 billion charge against warranty claims following reports of up to a 30 percent failure rate of the original Xbox 360.

The new device is expected to be released late in 2008 or at the 2009 CES show in Las Vegas.

http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Gaming/Console/P4G5C3U2?page=2

well if this is true then I won't be getting a 360 as planned. Wonder if they will just drop support of the current 360 like they did the xbox

Lord Moon
10-19-2007, 08:44 AM
Actually this just sounds like an expansion of the current 360. Sounds like it would be the same machine, just with a HD DVD drive. It would be the Elite, Elite. ;)

Agriel
10-19-2007, 09:30 AM
Actually this just sounds like an expansion of the current 360. Sounds like it would be the same machine, just with a HD DVD drive. It would be the Elite, Elite. ;)
well thats even dumber then I thought if you are right

eswat
10-19-2007, 09:54 AM
Xbox 360 The Elite of the Elite Edition x_X

True
10-19-2007, 09:57 AM
Well depending how much more this thing cost, maybe I can wait a little longer (or just wait for the next gen xbox lol).

Digital*Firefly
10-19-2007, 10:21 AM
I'm sure Toshiba is working on an HD-DVD drive for their next system, but I doubt they'll release their next gen system before end of 2009 (more likely 2010). The only thing I can see them doing is putting the HD-DVD drive in the Elite system but for movie use only.

Violence in HD
10-19-2007, 10:42 AM
I'm sure Toshiba is working on an HD-DVD drive for their next system, but I doubt they'll release their next gen system before end of 2009 (more likely 2010). The only thing I can see them doing is putting the HD-DVD drive in the Elite system but for movie use only.

QFT...

C0lin
10-19-2007, 01:03 PM
God this is getting old. It really is like the car world. Feeling obsolete after a year is supposed to be a PC gaming thing, not for consoles.

Nut_Man
10-19-2007, 01:12 PM
well thats even dumber then I thought if you are right

Its dumber to include the HDDVD drive/a larger hard drive in a new sku than it is to completely drop support for the current 360s?

Im not sure I follow.

Agriel
10-19-2007, 01:31 PM
Its dumber to include the HDDVD drive/a larger hard drive in a new sku than it is to completely drop support for the current 360s?

Im not sure I follow.
for 2 reason I can see, for one it will put a more expensive and needless SKU on the market wasting more money. And if it is used to make games on the HD-DVD format then what are the other 360 owners going to do?

Nut_Man
10-19-2007, 01:39 PM
for 2 reason I can see, for one it will put a more expensive and needless SKU on the market wasting more money. And if it is used to make games on the HD-DVD format then what are the other 360 owners going to do?

Ok well first of all I wouldnt call it a useless sku. If youre wanting to get a 360 and you also want an HDDVD player then you could get this rumored sku. It has it all in there and Itll probably be cheaper than buying a 360 and the HDDVD drive seperately.

Second, they wont make HDDVD games. Mainly because it would piss off all the 360 owners and because no developer would want to make an HDDVD game. Since it wasnt included in the first place a small minority own the HDDVD add on. Very few people could purchase HDDVD games. It would be a retarded decision by any developer to make an HDDVD game.

Agriel
10-19-2007, 01:47 PM
Ok well first of all I wouldnt call it a useless sku. If youre wanting to get a 360 and you also want an HDDVD player then you could get this rumored sku. It has it all in there and Itll probably be cheaper than buying a 360 and the HDDVD drive seperately.

Second, they wont make HDDVD games. Mainly because it would piss off all the 360 owners and because no developer would want to make an HDDVD game. Since it wasnt included in the first place a small minority own the HDDVD add on. Very few people could purchase HDDVD games. It would be a retarded decision by any developer to make an HDDVD game.
I don't care this is my opinion on this whole this, clearly you want to argue about it I stated my opinion, and you can debated all you want alone

Hendrix
10-19-2007, 01:57 PM
I don't care this is my opinion on this whole this, clearly you want to argue about it I stated my opinion, and you can debated all you want alone

What the hell? If you're worried about wether or not he responds to your post, why did you respond to him in the first place? Nut Man was just stating his opinion, no different than you stating yours.

Agriel
10-19-2007, 02:00 PM
What the hell? If you're worried about wether or not he responds to your post, why did you respond to him in the first place? Nut Man was just stating his opinion, no different than you stating yours.
just trying to say that I don't wanna "debate" my opinion with him, he asked me why I felt like that then told me I was wrong and why. Good for him I just don't care. Is that a problem for you?

Nut_Man
10-19-2007, 02:18 PM
Um I dont think I was debating it. I was just telling you that it wasnt really a useless SKU and why some people might want to buy it.

If you didnt care then why did you reply to me in the first place?

gk128
10-19-2007, 02:21 PM
This does sound like another SKU of the 360. Is it needed? Not really, but people will buy it regardless.

If/when it does happen games won't start magically appearing on HDDVD. The 360 install base is too big to pull a suicide move like that. I wouldn't totally count out the possibility of HDDVD Special Editions of some games, and having the regular DVD edition though.

This could also just end up being the next XBOX. I mean MS is working on it now. Just as Sony and Nintendo are working on their next systems.

Burr
10-19-2007, 02:45 PM
This sounds like what the Elite should have been IMO.

Token White Guy
10-19-2007, 03:06 PM
This sounds like what the Elite should have been IMO.

Damn straight! Although I don't have a HD TV. Still.

Lord Moon
10-19-2007, 03:16 PM
Damn straight! Although I don't have a HD TV. Still.

Ditto, though we have to get one before Feb, 2009. (http://www.dtv.gov/index.html)

JUSTINFL
10-19-2007, 04:20 PM
Maybe we will see HD-DVD Games

And we will see FMV games

I want Night Trap 2

XGAMERX
10-19-2007, 04:39 PM
Man I'm so sick of all these Newer editions of the consoles coming out.

jwg
10-19-2007, 04:41 PM
There's no way in hell there will ever be HD-DVD games. That would piss off all but the most extreme Xbox fanboys.

I just hope they don't dump the 360 the way they did the Xbox in the next 2 years or so.

Digital*Firefly
10-19-2007, 05:47 PM
Ditto, though we have to get one before Feb, 2009. (http://www.dtv.gov/index.html)

You don't need a high def tv, just a digital one, and you don't even need a digital tv, you can use a digital converter box on your existing tv.

DeadMan
10-19-2007, 05:49 PM
Another PSX?

Nut_Man
10-19-2007, 09:26 PM
Ditto, though we have to get one before Feb, 2009. (http://www.dtv.gov/index.html)

You do know that all you have to do is buy some little adapter for an estimated price of $20 right? No one has to get an hdtv.

kadosho
10-19-2007, 09:41 PM
Options
1) Let the current customers enjoy whats being given
2) Those who want more, then you get more. er pay more..
3) The almighty gaming $

Find it interesting Toshiba of all companies is pitching.
*note hey im a toshiba fan, dvd player, and tv.. hehe I might pickup an HD or LCD by Toshiba later.. hmm