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Apulo

10-26-2004, 03:50 PM

Arandar,

I trust Blackwolf to handle stuff on the admin side of things.

Personally, I think YOU aren't the best community member. You tend to piss and moan about every little thing when it doesn't fit into your perfect vision of the way things to be even when what you consider perfect doesn't agree with the rest of the community.

I really wish you'd just chill a little.

Arandar

10-26-2004, 04:04 PM

I really wish you would at least say something when you leave me negative feedback since that was a hack you said you were putting in months ago. I also thank you for being an ass giving me negative feedback because I have a different opinion then you. I didn't insult him or you in any way at all, I just said I don't think hes a good mod. Last time I checked I was allowed to have my own opinion here. Unless did that change when I couldn't get online in the past week? Let me know since it will help me out afterall.

As for the rest, no I don't piss and moan about every little thing. I pissed and moan about ONE big thing: The rep system. Which I might add has still yet to get any type of guidelines at all, which was ALL I was ASKING for in the first place. The point of the rep system, at least what I thought was the point based off of what Scot told us of it, was to give each other good and bad rep based on how well we post. Not to be able to harrass people from the shadows without being found out. Which I have been with things such as being told to "go fuck my brother" because I like my local football team(Patriots), and also things such as being called a "fucking faggot" who should "go die" because I don't think a 25 SECOND trailer of Halo 2 is the greatest thing ever made.(you know who you are)

Infact I sent you not one but TWO PMs about this and you ignored both of them. I thought you guys claimed this wasn't going to be like G4 at all? That it was going to be better and that type of crap wasn't going to be allowed? Well not only is it allowed, its all but encouraged through lack of leadership. All Games has quickly gone from a place to escapse the crap of G4 to "G4 Junior".

Apulo

10-26-2004, 04:12 PM

Firstly... I left you no reputation at all. If I did... You'd know it.

Second... Between my day job and planning out the website, I have very little time to do day-to-day administration here at all which is why Blackwolf has been conscripted to help out. I'll leave it to him to determine what reputation rules need to be put in place and enforced. I have bigger fish to fry.

I did get your two PMs. I did not answer them yet because I have not been able to formulate a coherent response. I planned on doing so when I was able but I guess that isn't good enough for you

As far as your opinion, I respect that. My response had nothing to do with your opinion, I was merely responding with mine. I might be the webmaster of allgames.com and the administrator of these forums but that doesn't mean I cant have my opinions either.

Arandar

10-26-2004, 04:19 PM

And in my defense I asked for these guidelines back in late July/early August so you, Scot, BlackWolf, and/or Dulaity has had plenty of time to put them in place. Hell I even came up with them as well when I suggested them:

1. Positive rep should only be given out for something that is helpful, informative, and or funny. Not for something such as liking the same color or because your friends.

2. Negaive rep should only be given out for something such as breaking a forum rule or being a complete asshole and insulting members and spamming/hacking and such. Also insulting someone while giving a rep will not be tolerated.

That seems simple enough to me. And notice how I did say guidelines, not rules. When people(not just myself but others as well) get negative rep for saying we like a SPORTS TEAM, then you know you have a problem. That is all I am and have been asking. And that if those guidelines be put in place that they be enforced please. Thats mainly the reason why I am opposed to BW being made an Admin since when this was a really huge deal happening to many people he seemed to think it no big deal. Almost as if he wanted people to be called faggots that should go die for liking a sports team.

Blackwolf

10-26-2004, 04:24 PM

Apulo

10-26-2004, 04:25 PM

I dont understand your reasoning. You're upset that there is no leadership yet when I appoint someone to take the role, you get upset.

I dont know if you uderstand that this is not my full time job, I do have other responsibilities outside of this website at the moment. It seems that other people are okay with that besides you. I'm finally getting the time and resources I need to get things rolling so I'll say it again.

Just chill out a little.

Tulare

10-26-2004, 04:34 PM

Congrats to ya BW. Like Digital*Firefly, I thought you were already.

He was a mod, he is now Admin. Like was a teacher, now a Principal.

Arandar

10-26-2004, 04:35 PM

Actually, Arandar, the first thing I was planning on doing was going through the Reputations and see what was going on (because, you know, you fought so hard when I became a mod for me NOT to have the ability to see reputations, so it was taken away from me) and ironically it's one of your very good friends who is one of the biggest abusers of the system based on your two guidelines.

Are you SURE you want us to look in them and punish those who don't follow your guidelines? Because it's the people you LIKE that are the ones doing the abusing, not the ones you dislike.
Actually I never once said anything at all about you being able to view reps when you were just a mod. You can go back and check all the posts if you want, although why you or anyone else for that matter would is beyond me since that would take forever, but I didn't say anything about it. As for whos abusing the system I figured at least one person I know is doing it, but as for the rest I have no idea. I do know who some of the people who give "stupid rep" as I like to call it are though. One such who called me a "fucking faggot" who should go "die" I was opposed to his coming here from a certain other site since of his obsession with a cerain game that begins with an H. And yes I want you to look. What a punishment would be I don't know(I would think loss of privlidge to give reps), but fair is fair.

Apulo: I know your trying to get things done and thats why your appointing someone to do these things, but as I said I just don't think BlackWolf is the best choice. I think you could pick someone better. Duality is fine, although he doesn't post a whole lot anymore so that might be a problem if hes to busy being a mod at G4.

Ziggler

10-26-2004, 04:41 PM

Congrats on the new Adminship... !

:>

arefx

10-26-2004, 05:27 PM

Although I think others need to be able to haev a chance to mod instead of the same old people that usually do, i'm glad blackwolf is in as a mod, I think he'll do a great job, and unlike most people (who hate him and want him to rot in hell), I mean that.

Blackwolf

10-26-2004, 05:59 PM

Although I think others need to be able to haev a chance to mod instead of the same old people that usually do

If you can qualify this statement with what you mean, that'd be great. Do you think people should be a mod "just cuz"? To me, I don't think modding is a necessity for anyone except people who crave power or status, and I hestate to mod someone because they "need a chance" instead of people who we know and trust are qualified to do so.

And, I was a mod here before, which meant I could move/lock threads and change signatures and...that's it. Now I can do more, because both Scot and Apulo trust me to do what's in their best interests.

And Arandar, the person you're thinking of isn't the person doing those type of negative rep comments. :>

AcquiredTarget

10-26-2004, 06:06 PM

Now I can do more, because both Scot and Apulo trust me to do what's in their best interests. That kinda sums everything up for me not that it really mattered in the first place who was a mod/admin/god emperor

arefx

10-26-2004, 06:14 PM

If you can qualify this statement with what you mean, that'd be great. Do you think people should be a mod "just cuz"? To me, I don't think modding is a necessity for anyone except people who crave power or status, and I hestate to mod someone because they "need a chance" instead of people who we know and trust are qualified to do so.

And, I was a mod here before, which meant I could move/lock threads and change signatures and...that's it. Now I can do more, because both Scot and Apulo trust me to do what's in their best interests.

And Arandar, the person you're thinking of isn't the person doing those type of negative rep comments. :>

I don't think people should get it for the hell of it, I was just saying there are some others here who probably are worthy of modding, and we always see you and apullo modding, but that doesn't mean I don't think you deserve to be one, becuase you do...

Blackwolf

10-26-2004, 06:25 PM

That's because there really isn't much here to mod at the moment, arefx. I think I've used my mod tools like...once or twice in the past few months.

We don't want to fall into a "Too many chiefs, too few indians" type of situation.

Reffy

10-26-2004, 11:26 PM

I'm sure when there is need for more mods, more mods will be put into place. I'd rather that be required though...
It was just a matter of time before Blackwolf moved up...he's Blackwolf dammit, what do you expect.

Tom the First

10-26-2004, 11:33 PM

Hooray for Blackwolf!

Frequency

10-26-2004, 11:34 PM

Every time somebody is modded at any site, the entire community shows up to piss and moan, "why not me?". Jesus fucking Christ some of you people make me sick. Can't you just congradulate Blackwolf and be on your way?

Ugh.

Anyway, congrats BW.

Octocamo

10-26-2004, 11:37 PM

Congrats man.

*Piss & Moan* Why aren't I an admin or a Mod? :confused:

Tom the First

10-26-2004, 11:50 PM

Boohoo, I shall eat feces due to my discontent!

Arandar

10-26-2004, 11:53 PM

Incase any of you are talking about me, which I'm sure some of you are, I never pissed and moaned about being a mod. Hell I never even asked to be a mod. Sure I would accept the position if its offered, but I don't expect it to be, I was just saying so in the threads Scot made asking if anyone wanted to be a mod.

And for the record I don't hate BlackWolf. I just don't like him much from his attitude of things. And that is only from this site since I never really knew him at all from G4.

Lastly to BlackWolf, I know its not that certain person whos giving me all the bad rep, but I know that certain person did give me one bad rep calling me what I said above and telling me to die or some such.

agn

10-27-2004, 12:26 PM

group hug.

The Host

10-29-2004, 11:59 AM

This will be the doom of us all.
Flee while you can, soon his power will grow and consume your children.
"qualified to do so" my ass :smt043

Duality

10-29-2004, 12:27 PM

Because you know ... G4 went down in flames immediately after Bobby was modded there.

2 immediate years of "going down in flames" before any major changes were made ...

The Host

10-29-2004, 12:32 PM

Pretty much yeah.

http://www.allgames.com/images/reputation/reputation_neg.gifNew admin (http://www.allgames.com/showthread.php?p=31437#post31437)10-29-2004 11:27 AM Attention seeking brat.

*makes sheep noise*
hmm ass kissing at it's finest.
Cue the 'hail to the chief' music.
Oh No !
I voiced my opinion what ever shall happen to me now ? :roll:

Frequency

10-29-2004, 12:36 PM

I sent that because it is exactly what you are. Go ahead and think that I'm kissing BW's ass, it really does not matter to me at all.

Blackwolf

10-29-2004, 12:36 PM

So the G4 forums went down in flames 2 weeks before the network went on the air?

I mean, seriously, if you have real, true concerns about it, please voice them. Scot's got an open mind, and since Allgames is his venture, I'm sure he's very interested in what the community has to say. He's the one who approached and approved me for this. The only thing I've done since being made admin was something that Arandar has been pushing for. And he says I'm still not doing enough in that respect. I thought you two were buds and agreed on a lot of things...?

Duality

10-29-2004, 12:44 PM

I voiced my opinion what ever shall happen to me now ? :roll:
You'll be castigated and made the fool.

The Host

10-29-2004, 12:47 PM

You'll be castigated and made the fool.

Yeah how is that working out for you ?

Seriously all I hear is the *Wahh, Wahh, Wahh* sound from Charlie Brown :-?
And yeah complaining that always gets the job done :smt075
My words are wasted here I can see as it matters not what anyone says to you.

Blackwolf

10-29-2004, 12:48 PM

Can't fault me for trying, then.

The Host

10-29-2004, 12:52 PM

Can't fault me for trying, then.

Actually now that you mention it ;-)
C'mon people make that rep drop, let's see the system at work :smt029
He will eat your children, so give me negative rep :smt023

Arandar

10-29-2004, 04:08 PM

The only thing I've done since being made admin was something that Arandar has been pushing for. And he says I'm still not doing enough in that respect. I thought you two were buds and agreed on a lot of things...?
Actually I haven't yet. I thanked you for you saying your going to be checking the reps everyday, but then you said afterwards you won't be doing anything, at least as of yet, about "stupid reps" or blank ones, which is what I wanted the most. I haven't responded to that post so I haven't actually said at all your not doing enough, you just assume thats what I'm thinking. I'm still waiting to see how things go before I say anything more on this.

Tulare

10-29-2004, 04:58 PM

:smt022 Rep system, waaa waaa waaa, you can read this if you want, but it's the same post I make everytime. The world is against me, :cry: nobody gets it. I said something stupid, then got - rep, poor me. I'm the only one who has it hard in the whole world.

Damn, you are the energizer bunny, the bitching power never runs out. I think you'd have even gotten tired of yourself at this point. I'm actually shocked anybody would give you - rep anymore do to your onslaught of tears we all have to suffer though in the aftermath.

Anyway, Host and Arandar's efforts to change this congrats thread is pretty weak. Things like this probably should have been PMed to Scot and Apulo, or even made in a different thread as to who people want to be Admin and mods.

Congrats Blackwolf, ignore the bitchers, read your SIG, feel better. :smt023

Arandar

10-29-2004, 05:06 PM

Damn, you are the energizer bunny, the bitching power never runs out. I think you'd have even gotten tired of yourself at this point. I'm actually shocked anybody would give you - rep anymore do to your onslaught of tears we all have to suffer though in the aftermath.

Anyway, Host and Arandar's efforts to change this congrats thread is pretty weak. Things like this probably should have been PMed to Scot and Apulo, or even made in a different thread as to who people want to be Admin and mods.

Congrats Blackwolf, ignore the bitchers, read your SIG, feel better. :smt023
I'm sorry can you repeat youself please? I couldn't quite hear you since it sounded like you had something in your mouth while you were talking.

Anyway if you read my post, which you obviously haven't, I said I thanked BlackWolf for what he did and then said I am waiting on what happens with what he has done before I say anything further. And this was a public announcement thread not a celebration thread for him, hence why the title of it was "new admin" and not "Congrats BlackWolf".

What I want to ask is do you reall believe half the crap you say? You call everyone else a bitcher yet what do you think your doing right now? You bitch about people bitching. That seems to be your "thing" at these boards. You say others bitch and are sick of it, yet you make no effort yourself to not bitch at those people. IF there is any type of problem your not helping at all but ADDING to it. Practice what you preach. You don't want people to bitch then shut your trap and don't post since you just do the same damn thing as those you complain about.

Tulare

10-29-2004, 05:14 PM

I'm sorry can you repeat youself please? I couldn't quite hear you since it sounded like you had something in your mouth while you were talking.

Anyway if you read my post, which you obviously haven't, I said I thanked BlackWolf for what he did and then said I am waiting on what happens with what he has done before I say anything further. And this was a public announcement thread not a celebration thread for him, hence why the title of it was "new admin" and not "Congrats BlackWolf".

What I want to ask is do you reall believe half the crap you say? You call everyone else a bitcher yet what do you think your doing right now? You bitch about people bitching. That seems to be your "thing" at these boards. You say others bitch and are sick of it, yet you make no effort yourself to not bitch at those people. IF there is any type of problem your not helping at all but ADDING to it. Practice what you preach. You don't want people to bitch then shut your trap and don't post since you just do the same damn thing as those you complain about.

I'm guessing the first line was supposed to be real funny, have to work on that one a bit.

There is a difference between bitching and making a point. Bitching tends to be somebody pointing at themselves as a victim. That seems to be your "thing" on these boards. Making a point is typically what I do, if the fact that I don't cry when getting - rep, or that I make points you don't agree with bother you, deal with it son, almost everybody seems to find a way.

Arandar

10-29-2004, 05:30 PM

I'm guessing the first line was supposed to be real funny, have to work on that one a bit.

There is a difference between bitching and making a point. Bitching tends to be somebody pointing at themselves as a victim. That seems to be your "thing" on these boards. Making a point is typically what I do, if the fact that I don't cry when getting - rep, or that I make points you don't agree with bother you, deal with it son, almost everybody seems to find a way.
On man's trash is another man's treasure. Your "point" often seems like bitching to me. Just like my "point" often seems like bitching to you. I think you bitch just as much as anyone else.

It appears you need to work on your humor as well since I wasnt aware that I broke down into tears crying whenever someone gives me bad rep. The only bad rep I "bitch" about is from the morons who say stuff like "go fuck your brother" for me liking the Patriots my home team. Unless of course your trying to tell me your a moron? Otherwise what I said in my last post still stands, Practice what you preach, "son".

Duality

10-29-2004, 07:10 PM

On man's trash is another man's treasure.
I don't think that particular adage really applies here.

How's this. I think all of your opinions are equally meaningless, so deal with it.

The Host

10-29-2004, 09:11 PM

arefx

10-29-2004, 09:16 PM

I love to laugh.

Duality

10-29-2004, 09:19 PM

How the hell am I sucking up? I'm a mod here! That puts me on nearly equal footing!

Also, I've known Bobby long enough to know that his ass really isn't worth the dirty lips.

And what fun would this be if I weren't being condescending?

Alt

10-29-2004, 09:20 PM

The award for sucking up goes to BamBam, with Duality closing in.

And yeah Duality how can anyone's opinion be meaningless ?
I understand the BW worship aside still your opinion to me seems very flawed but that's why it is your opinion and not mine.
Arandar at least speaks his mind and doesn't try to be condescending as most of you blatantly are when talking to anyone.

Does it really matter? My opinion is the only one that matters and thats all that counts. Blackwolf makes a good mod, you all make great bitchers, end of story.

The Host

10-29-2004, 09:25 PM

Actually your opinion may only matter to you as it's largely based in 'non-fiction' some of us have to live in the "Real World".
I do find it funny that all the BW posse can never stop referring to someone voicing their opinion as "bitching".
And Duality we all make our own fun, why do you think I'm doing this ?

:smt023

Green

10-29-2004, 10:03 PM

Arandar at least speaks his mind and doesn't try to be condescending as most of you blatantly are when talking to anyone.

Duality's condescension is meant as a joke.

Because the idea that he could be better than anyone is pretty fuckin' hilarious.

dcNate

10-29-2004, 10:44 PM

Hay guys what's going on in this thread!?

Blackwolf

10-29-2004, 11:22 PM

Well, Host, when I asked for the reasoning behind your disdain over Scot's decision, you refused to answer. At least Arandar answers my questions for me and gives me an idea of why he feels the way he does, and I can respect that. You, I have no clue why you feel the way you do, because any time I ask you avoid the question and say that you can't understand anything I say because you see it as a Charlie Brown parent.

I'm not sure what more I can do. If you could possibly point out to me what YOU want to see happen or, more preferably, why YOU are upset over the fact that I was chosen for this position, then perhaps the staff that chose me can understand why you keep saying I'm a bad decision. However, the way they see it now is that all you want to do is stir up troube and create a "users vs. staff" mentality for no reason other than "it's fun". I'm positive, since you claim to be one of the most intelligent people ever to log into this message board, that you're not that shallow and you actually have true and explainable reasons like Arandar does.

Arandar

10-29-2004, 11:44 PM

You, I have no clue why you feel the way you do, because any time I ask you avoid the question and say that you can't understand anything I say because you see it as a Charlie Brown parent.
WAAH WAAH WAAH. Heh sorry I just had to do that. :razz: Although I'm not even sure if thats the way they spelled it. But I'm sure I'll find out once they air the Charlie Brown Christmas Special another 85 times in about a month or so.

The Host

10-29-2004, 11:53 PM

I didn't refuse to answer I have told you before why I felt you weren't as you put it 'qualified' to be in the position you now find yourself.
Don't you remember my last thread where I even told you many times and why I don't feel you are worthy of such responsibility ?
And I understand you it's merely the overwhelming air of condescending matter in your posts it's hard to know what to address first.

So because you don't remember everything I said last time, just for you here's a recap :) And before the posse gets me everyone please keep in mind this is my opinion and thus cannot be wrong and he asked me.
Also I don't care enough about this place to want it to become as you put it a 'users vs staff' environment.
And thanks for the praise on my massive intellect, and no I'm not shallow I just have this weird habit of voicing my opinion.

1.) You are severely biased
2.) I have thus far seen no valid reason you deserve this responsibility above anyone else.
3.) You seem to try to be as insulting as possible to any one who doesn't feel exactly as you do.
4.) Ego - the living planet

Blackwolf

10-30-2004, 12:04 AM

1) Biased about what? If this is how people perceive me, then it's not my intention, and it's something I need to work on. But just saying that I'm "Biased" doesn't exactly narrow it down for me.
2) This is a valid concern, and there's not much I can do for this one. I guess that Scot DOES see a valid reason, considering this is not the first time I've been involved with his ventures (going all the way back to the original All Games Network in 1997.)
3) Key word here is "Seem", and it's something that I guess I have to work on. I don't insult people for thinking differently than I do, I don't try to silence people for thinking differently than I do, because I know _I_ would hate to be silenced by someone who had a different opinion than I did. However, it does seem that people automatically put a condescending tone to any word I type, and there's really not much ANYBODY can do about that.
4) Once again, a perception I have to work on.

I will be sure to bring your concerns to Scot's attention, because this is his business after all, and if making me responsible for this portion of his website will hurt his business, I'm sure he'll do what he has to do.

Thanks for your answers.

The Host

10-30-2004, 12:45 AM

Biased I meant towards certain people.
And don't take this personally I reject all forms of authority that's why I bought my own business.
I never did like the thought that anyone could be put into a position where they could decide what I can say or do.
That should be up to each individual, so it's not just you believe me I have a certain twinge when anyone that willingly takes up a position such as mod or admin.
Mostly due to the fact that most of them abuse such power and or believe themselves better than those they are now governing.
I may have been too quick to judge you and for that I apologize. :smt006

Tulare

11-01-2004, 10:00 AM

The award for sucking up goes to BamBam, with Duality closing in.

Guilty as charged, when people are right I do tend to agree with them. So Blackwolf it may be all your fault, start being wrong and all the problems will stop.

Arandar

11-01-2004, 12:30 PM

Guilty as charged, when people are right I do tend to agree with them. So Blackwolf it may be all your fault, start being wrong and all the problems will stop.
No your just a huge suck up. I have never seen you once disagree with Blackwolf ever on anything. No matter what it is you are always there to tell him how right he is and insult anyone who disagrees with him. See everyone else, those of us who don't suck up, agree and disagree with him based on what it is and how we feel about it. Not you though, always there as a mindless zombie, or just like a follower in a cult.