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Blue Falcon
02-28-2005, 01:30 PM
CNN Money (http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/28/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/index.htm)

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) – While Nintendo's next generation console gaming system likely won't hit living rooms until 2006, that doesn't mean the company won't introduce new hardware this year. A new analyst report suggests the company is planning to ship the next version of the Game Boy portable gaming system by the end of 2005.

If so, that would be the third new handheld gaming system in as many years for Nintendo, whose Nintendo DS was one of the hottest items of the 2004 holiday season and Game Boy Advance SP was one of the must-have gifts of 2003. The new Game Boy would face stiff competition, though, from Sony's PSP – which will hit U.S. stores in March.

"We believe it is likely that the next version of the Game Boy Advance SP will ship as early as this holiday, ahead of most expectations of calendar year 2006," wrote P.J. McNealy of American Technology Research.

The new system, he predicts, will launch at a $99 price point, with prices on the Game Boy Advance falling to $49. Nintendo DS prices, he wrote, will likely remain unchanged.

Nintendo representatives were unavailable for comment.

Official confirmation of the new Game Boy could come as early as March 10, when Nintendo president Satoru Iwata is scheduled to give a keynote speech entitled "The Heart of a Gamer" at the upcoming Game Developer's Conference in San Francisco.

It's unclear at this point what sort of advances might be found in a new Game Boy. While this may be a graphical leap forward like many next generation consoles, it could just as easily be an incremental step, slightly enhancing the company's current offering.

Releasing a new Game Boy on the heels of the Nintendo DS, which features two screens and a touch pad, might seem a bit odd, but Nintendo has been quite vocal in saying the two systems are built for different audiences. The Game Boy has traditionally been aimed at children, while Nintendo hopes to reach an older audience with the DS.

McNealy said the numbers seem to be backing Nintendo up.

"The Nintendo DS has, by and large, been additive to Nintendo software revenue and units sales and not cannibalistic," he wrote. "Even with the DS launch in November, GBA software revenue and unit sales were up double-digits in December and January."

That's not to say it has all been smooth sailing for the DS. While the system enjoyed tremendous success during the holiday period, software sales have been rather disappointing. So far in 2005, new title releases have been minimal, which has stymied the system's momentum.

And the imminent launch of the PSP will only make the fight harder. Sony's system has been getting rave reviews from overseas users – and demand will almost certainly exceed supply when the PSP launches in the U.S.

But a new hardware launch would help keep Nintendo top of mind with consumers during the holiday season. Sony will be heavily promoting the PSP as December draws near – and Microsoft is expected to launch the next version of its Xbox gaming system this fall. Without a new device, Nintendo could easily be overshadowed.

There's also the real threat of piracy with the current generation of Game Boys. Although piracy of GBA games has not been a major problem in North America, the company has seen a dramatic rise of digital theft in the Asia-Pacific region. The cartridges used for GBA cards are fairly easy for hackers to crack and the games are often posted online. The DS, which uses flash memory cards, has not had the same problems, writes McNealy.

A new Game Boy could give a boost to some game publishers. While industry leader Electronic Arts (Research) and Take Two Interactive Software (Research) do not have big presences on Nintendo's handhelds, THQ (Research) makes a large number of games for the system. And Activision (Research) has shown an increased interest in them recently.

"We believe that a new GBA SP could mean between $10 million to $20 million of additional revenue for both Activision and THQ in FY06, and an additional $0.02 to $0.04 in earnings," wrote McNealy.

The question is, though: Will Nintendo's audience be willing to shell out another hundred bucks (or more) for the third year in a row? Or will they invest their gaming dollars elsewhere?

Burr
02-28-2005, 01:37 PM
I think they're biting off more than they can chew.

Carps
02-28-2005, 01:50 PM
Lately, I feel Nintendo has done a terrible job stratagizing for their latest systems. The Gamecube never quite reached the level of the X-box or PS2, mostly due to the lack of Online playability. The PSP will most likely outshine Nintendo's handheld attempts, be it the "next Gameboy" or "DS". Critics are saying that the PSP will do for games what the IPod did for music. Hopefully, their next system, "Revolution", will not trail the competition as they have been lately.

Sub-Z
02-28-2005, 02:31 PM
I was watching G4tv.com last night and they were high on the PSP being a movie machine. I just find it hard to believe people would give $20 for tiny movies that they can play on nothing other than a PSP.

Octocamo
02-28-2005, 02:56 PM
I was watching G4tv.com last night and they were high on the PSP being a movie machine. I just find it hard to believe people would give $20 for tiny movies that they can play on nothing other than a PSP.VHS can't play on anything but a VCR.http://forums.allgames.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

Same with all types of media formats when they first come out.

I can't believe another handheld is probably going to be released by Nintendo this year. They have the "Revolution" to worry about, and getting some good 1st party games done for both the DS and Gamecube.

Damn Nintendo, think you need 2 handhelds to "fight" the war.

Captain N
02-28-2005, 03:01 PM
Hey guys: Over saturation rules.

Sub-Z
02-28-2005, 04:54 PM
Matrix, totally different and you know it. VHS plays on your TV. DVD plays on your TV, portable DVD player, and laptops. PSP disc plays in a midget sized gameboy and nothing else.

Regole
02-28-2005, 05:12 PM
If it comes out this year, f**k the Xenon, I'm buying it for Christmas.

Arandar
02-28-2005, 06:28 PM
Well if it does come out this year and is only a 100 bucks and plays all past Game Boy games as well, then I'm definatly getting it. I have been meaning to get an SP, but just never have. The only thing I would hope though is that you can link up the next GB to your GC like you can do with the SP. Otherwise I'm screwed in terms of getting to my island in Animal Crossing. Although I suppose it would help if I play it again sometime soon considering I have been MIA for over a year now.

C0lin
03-01-2005, 12:40 AM
This is kinda like how Nader takes votes from pretty much only democrats. People that bought the DS will hesitate to buy the new GB, and people that buy the GB won't want to buy the DS.

inertname
03-01-2005, 08:19 AM
While I'm against them having out both this and the DS at the same time I know by the time of release I'll get sucked into getting it =/

Octocamo
03-01-2005, 08:38 AM
Matrix, totally different and you know it. VHS plays on your TV. DVD plays on your TV, portable DVD player, and laptops. PSP disc plays in a midget sized gameboy and nothing else.
How do you know it won't play on something else in the future?

They may even release a UMD burner.

DVD's also play on PC's.

Duality
03-01-2005, 09:21 AM
I think they're biting off more than they can chew.
I agree. They haven't cannibalized anything yet, but its still early.

New adopters are buying the DS as a replacement for their GBA/SP, while people who wanted to buy a GBA before are now getting one at a discounted price because of the DS' release.

Nintendo's biggest mistake, IMO, is having GBA cart support in the DS. The next GameBoy release is going to either fail because people bought the DS, or will cannibalize DS sails unless they increase its library significantly.

VHS can't play on anything but a VCR.http://forums.allgames.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
Except UMD won't play on a set-top display. Your friends don't have UMD set-top display. Your movie, for the time being, will only work on the PSP. VHS may only work in a VCR, but at the time, your friends almost certainly had one.

The PSP simply is not ubiquitous enough of a platform for movies to be released on. Unless UMD as a format outpaces DVD (which has an incredible 5-7 year head start), the widespread acceptance Sony is expecting simply won't exist.

How do you know it won't play on something else in the future?

They may even release a UMD burner.

DVD's also play on PC's.
If they want widespread market penetration for their format, they have to make a set-top unit first. They'll be competing directly with DVD and will need to cover every base it has.

Starting with the handheld is the weakest way to go about it. Until they have set-top displays, people are going to be under the impression that they have to buy two separate formats for the movies they love -- one in UMD for when they're on the road, and another on DVD for when they're at home or at another person's home.

alexsan
03-01-2005, 10:48 AM
I think they should focus more on making the DS good than making a new system

Duality
03-01-2005, 02:39 PM
Turns out the latest rumor, according to Eurogamer (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=58091), isn't about a new system, but yet another improved GBA update.

This sounds much more plausible.
At this stage no concrete details exist on what enhancements Nintendo will be making to the GBA, but it's expected that the various add-ons released over the past year or so will be integrated into the remodelled console; namely the PlayYan multimedia capabilities that enable users to watch movies and listen to music on their GBA, as well as other obvious improvements such as the much missed headphone jack and, of course, wireless connectivity.

And it's on the latter point where things get potentially interesting, with the potential for Nintendo to extend its wireless download plans to the GBA, as well as include the GBA in its long-mooted online gaming plans. All of this remains in the realms of speculation, but the way is clear for Nintendo to truly extend the GBA lifespan well beyond what it otherwise might have been had it chosen to focus solely on the DS going forward.

To put the wild speculation about a next-gen Game Boy console into context, the story was initially based upon a report released yesterday by American Technology Research analyst P.J. McNealy which pontificated on the likelihood of a new GBA SP being released in time for Christmas.
The rumor about a new next-gen handheld likely came from SPOnG.com.

Blue Falcon
03-01-2005, 03:02 PM
A thing worth noting is that the guy who speculated all this stuff ifs the same guy who said the PSP would be coming out in June at a standalone price (in other words, none of the "value pack" stuff) of $300. So this guy could be wrong again.

But if Nintendo were to show it this year, I think it'd be nice (but I wouldn't care either way)...but if released this year, it will be suicidal for them. Mid-2006 is the soonest the next Game Boy should be released.

gk128
03-01-2005, 08:08 PM
How do you know it won't play on something else in the future?

They may even release a UMD burner.

DVD's also play on PC's.

The last thing needed is a new form of mainstream media storage.

UMD is nothing more than a PSP only deal. It will never replace DVD or CDs.

nekobun
03-06-2005, 02:24 AM
The UMD's actually the MiniDisk equivalent of the DVD; that is, it's the next step up from MD in the same size format. And that's why it's likely to never catch on beyond the PSP outside of Japan. Over in Japan, the MD did tremendously, and still thrives well enough today, to the point that the UMD has a chance of seeing movie-specific UMD players and other UMD applications like music storage and whatnot as well over there.

Over here, there's a lot less chance for any sort of similar market to develop, however, judging from past trends. Especially since the MD itself never caught on over here to begin with, thus providing a lack of any real springboard media saturation to work from in marketing.

Burr
03-06-2005, 03:25 PM
That's because Japan loves mini techie everything, regardless of how pointless and/or redundant it is.

I could design a micro turd polisher and it would sell like hotcakes over there.

Don't steal that idea ok.

nekobun
03-06-2005, 04:38 PM
Steal the mini turd polisher idea? WHEN YOU ALREADY STOLE IT FROM ME?!

Regole
03-06-2005, 04:43 PM
Steal the mini turd polisher idea? WHEN YOU ALREADY STOLE IT FROM ME?!

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