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Carps
06-19-2005, 01:49 AM
July 16th.
Midnight.
I'll be there.
Anyone else?
Octocamo
06-19-2005, 02:09 AM
Eh, my mom will probably buy it for me off of Amazon or something.
Not going to be waiting till midnight for it. :P
DUmb n00b
06-19-2005, 07:01 AM
my moms better cop that shit for my birthday... or i'll be angry, like a mexico man.
AcquiredTarget
06-19-2005, 10:40 AM
And lose valuable hours of sleep? :D mmmm, sleep. Nah, I've got it pre-ordered. I'll pick it up later that day. And don't go telling me what happens ;)
Nivea
06-19-2005, 11:51 AM
I'm quitting my job at the library just in time. If there is one thing worse than working at the library, it is when a Harry Potter book comes out.
Carps
06-19-2005, 12:07 PM
I'm re-reading "Order" right now, I always end up remembering broad strokes of the books but not the real specific details and I want to be real clear of what happened in Book Five for the newest edition to the series. I, honestly, can't wait.
J.K. = GENIUS.
Solidsnakessss
06-19-2005, 12:40 PM
Harry Potter sucks.
Nivea
06-19-2005, 01:10 PM
I prefer Duane's Young Wizard's books over Potter, but the movies for Harry Potter are excellent.
I stopped readin Order halfway through it. It was good but I got so caught up in other things I just forgot about it. YEAH I READ HARRY POTTER. WANNA KNIFE FIGHT ABOUT IT?
Carps
06-19-2005, 01:46 PM
Harry Potter sucks.
Good argument, well thought out, thanks for your opinion. I'm going to go stop reading it now.
-Beck-
06-19-2005, 01:54 PM
I just can't fathom the appeal of a story written for children in adults. It all seems like silly drivel to me.
MageMasher
06-19-2005, 01:58 PM
I read all the books...i read the new one when the time comes.
Carps
06-19-2005, 02:06 PM
I just can't fathom the appeal of a story written for children in adults. It all seems like silly drivel to me.
That's like saying I don't like watching The Simpsons or cartoons, because kids like it. The books have elements that appeal to BOTH children and adults, and that's what makes them so universal.
I just can't fathom the appeal of a story written for children in adults. It all seems like silly drivel to me.
well it has a wonderful charm about it. It might seem like just another childrens book but its far from it. Another thing i'd like to point out is. In each installment the characters are more mature and things become more darker. So as the reader matures so do the books. Cause some shit gets fucked up.(damn I was starting to act really classy too then went and blew it)
-Beck-
06-19-2005, 02:16 PM
That's like saying I don't like watching The Simpsons or cartoons, because kids like it. The books have elements that appeal to BOTH children and adults, and that's what makes them so universal.
That is not what I said at all.
OK, so do you stop and start reading Where the Wild Things Are every now and again? I don't think you do. That's what I'm saying, I see as much appeal in the Harry Potter books as I do reading Hop on Pop at my age.
AcquiredTarget
06-19-2005, 02:21 PM
Meh, some people can't understand playing video games/sports/favorite muscian/blan-blah. Each to their own. Like Carps and Rayo said, there's things that appeal to kids and adults. I used to knock adults who read the book until I saw the first flick and picked up the book afterwards. There are universal elements such as the Hero's Journey (or however Joe "How you doin'?" Conrad put it), overcoming/struggling against adversity, blah blah blah. Plus, this lady has a great imagination. The books are amazingly detailed. Next to Clancy's books, I reread them more than I reread others. But if ya don't like 'em, ya don't like 'em and no one should tell ya otherwise.
Aw damn it, now I sound like a frelling fanboy. Frak.
Carps
06-19-2005, 02:46 PM
That is not what I said at all.
OK, so do you stop and start reading Where the Wild Things Are every now and again? I don't think you do. That's what I'm saying, I see as much appeal in the Harry Potter books as I do reading Hop on Pop at my age.
Sorry Beck. I guess the HP Fanboy in me got upset. I just think they are so well written and so magical, and even at 21, I get more joy out of J.K. then I do out of a lot of "adult" authors.
DUmb n00b
06-19-2005, 03:22 PM
I'm quitting my job at the library just in time. If there is one thing worse than working at the library, it is when a Harry Potter book comes out.
library jobs are the worst man, i feel ur pain.
Solidsnakessss
06-19-2005, 05:00 PM
Good argument, well thought out, thanks for your opinion. I'm going to go stop reading it now.
Good for you, thanks for your opinion. I'm going to go cry now.
Carps
06-19-2005, 05:10 PM
Good for you, thanks for your opinion. I'm going to go cry now.
So much angst.
Solidsnakessss
06-19-2005, 05:20 PM
So much angst.
http://jedi.mythicdesigns.net/episodeiii/anakin/59.jpg
yup =/
alexsan
06-19-2005, 08:02 PM
And lose valuable hours of sleep? :D mmmm, sleep. Nah, I've got it pre-ordered. I'll pick it up later that day. And don't go telling me what happens ;)
Harry Potter will learn a lesson, make a new friend, fight someone, almost die, go home. Like in every other book
Harry Potter will learn a lesson, make a new friend, fight someone, almost die, go home. Like in every other book
I'm afraid thats not the case peche.
Luigidude
06-19-2005, 08:51 PM
Harry Potter is still here?
Then again...the books aren't half bad, it's the movies that I hate.
Snowmiser
06-19-2005, 09:02 PM
Harry Potter books are entertaining but ghastly overrated. You get a watered down mess of Rahl Dahl with wizardy and an author's knack for redundancy and you get a hit series? I don't get it. They are liek the potatoe chips of reading, you read em, youre done, and then you forget 'em and search for something more sastifying.
Rahl Dahl owns JK Rowling at every turn.
The Witches, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, James and the Giant Peach, Fantastic Mr. Fox>>>>>>>>>>>>>Harry Potter
Debating over who is the cooler authors. Jesus allgames is the pinacle of cool.
Carps
06-19-2005, 09:53 PM
Debating over who is the cooler authors. Jesus allgames is the pinacle of cool.
Bah if your looking for people who are stero-typically "cool" on a mainly video game message board-- you've got the wrong place. I think debating who is a better author is a great question. Especially when it involves my girl, J.K.
inertname
06-19-2005, 10:51 PM
that may be a good book but nearly as good as Elephant tranQ: MZYYY: BeckRokk: Elephant tranQElephant tranQ: moteg4chatlol
Nivea
06-19-2005, 11:52 PM
If you want a real good read that never gets old, then Chicka Chicka Boom Boom is where it's at.
It is far superior to the Harry Potter. Those crazy letters get me everytime. 8)
Seriously though, nothing is worse than those damn Berenstein Bears. ;):p
Back on topic about the next Harry Potter. I will catch it on video. By that time, Hermione (Emma) will be of legal age. :p
I kidd.
Snowmiser
06-20-2005, 01:03 AM
Debating over who is the cooler authors. Jesus allgames is the pinacle of cool.
Because as members of allgames we decided to debate hot poltical issues lke Social Security?
keith, evil dude
06-20-2005, 01:43 PM
They're fun. But Harry becomes more unbearable and angsty in every following book.
They're fun. But Harry becomes more unbearable and angsty in every following book.
He is falling to the dark side.
Ender
06-21-2005, 01:01 PM
He is falling to the dark side.
God, stole my remark. It does seem a bit like Star Wars, heh.
I love the books, and I'll no doubt pick this one up.
For those that don't get it, That's fine. Its just something you "get", or don't. Just like your favorite series. I can't persuade everyone here to love Ender's Game, and I'm not going to try. But there's no reason in looking down upon it. Solidsnakessss. :(
AcquiredTarget
06-21-2005, 02:56 PM
God, stole my remark. It does seem a bit like Star Wars, heh.
I love the books, and I'll no doubt pick this one up.
For those that don't get it, That's fine. Its just something you "get", or don't. Just like your favorite series. I can't persuade everyone here to love Ender's Game, and I'm not going to try. But there's no reason in looking down upon it. Solidsnakessss. :(The reason why you can't presuade me to love Ender's Game is because I already love it. :D I love it so much that I refuse to read the other's because I'm afraid they won't measure up to it. Orson Scott Card = one of the greatest writer's ever.
Carps
06-23-2005, 11:38 AM
For those INTERESTED in Harry Potter. A great website to get you caught up on EVERYTHING HP for the new book is: http://www.hp-lexicon.org/index-2.html
It's lexicon can turn any novice Harry Potter fan into some sort of freakazoid, know it all, Dumbledore boxer-short wearing, PROFESSIONAL.
Carps
07-01-2005, 04:58 PM
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0439784549.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
16 Days till Hogwarts is back in session...
Arandar
07-01-2005, 06:41 PM
I'm quitting my job at the library just in time. If there is one thing worse than working at the library, it is when a Harry Potter book comes out.
Library? LIBRARY?!? Amateur. Oh no you get a few copies thet will all on reserve for the first year. Thats nothing. Try BARNES & NOBLE. We won't even be closing until like 3 in the morning, which means by the time the store is straightened out and at least in somewhat of a semblence of order it will be 4 am or later possibly. Already theres nearly 3,000 books on order with 2 weeks still left. To put that in perspective we only got about 200 or so of Bill Clinton's book in and that sold really well as everyone knows. We can't even sell it until midnight which means there will be THOUSANDS of people in the stores in just a few hours. Usually you get that many if your lucky on the busiest day of the week for the whole day.
AcquiredTarget
07-01-2005, 07:15 PM
Library? LIBRARY?!? Amateur. Oh no you get a few copies thet will all on reserve for the first year. Thats nothing. Try BARNES & NOBLE. We won't even be closing until like 3 in the morning, which means by the time the store is straightened out and at least in somewhat of a semblence of order it will be 4 am or later possibly. Already theres nearly 3,000 books on order with 2 weeks still left. To put that in perspective we only got about 200 or so of Bill Clinton's book in and that sold really well as everyone knows. We can't even sell it until midnight which means there will be THOUSANDS of people in the stores in just a few hours. Usually you get that many if your lucky on the busiest day of the week for the whole day.Bah, I scoff at yer feeble complaints.:-P Try that for seven years, then come talk to me young Padwan.:smt028
Arandar
07-01-2005, 08:33 PM
Bah, I scoff at yer feeble complaints.:-P Try that for seven years, then come talk to me young Padwan.:smt028
Heh didn't you say you worked at some small unknown local book store though? :wink:
AcquiredTarget
07-01-2005, 10:26 PM
Well, I finally broke down and pre-ordered the book. But I will not be there at midnight. Nope, no way. Yeah right, *sigh*Heh didn't you say you worked at some small unknown local book store though? :wink:Small local chain, store size was comparable to the Buns & Noodles ;) and Border's stores. Release date sales for big title books like the Harry Potters was annoyingly slammed.
Carps
07-06-2005, 04:33 PM
Amazon is offering: "Select Standard Shipping and order by July 11 for guaranteed delivery on the release date of Saturday, July 16, or we will refund the cost of your book"
Very cool, I hope they don't deliver mine (No, that's just not true).
The last book I read was the last Harry Potter book. You can bet I'll be reading this one too.
Nivea
07-09-2005, 12:17 AM
I just quit my job for various reasons, but I know that it will be hell for the rest of my former co workers on the 16th. Complete and utter hell.
Now that I think about it, they are in for a ride for the next couple of months. People will try to get this book one way or another from the library regardless of how much easier it would be to just buy the book.
You should see some of the nasty things people do to us and other people just to get a hold on the limited supply of HP books the county buys whenever a new one is released.
Arandar
07-09-2005, 12:36 AM
I just quit my job for various reasons, but I know that it will be hell for the rest of my former co workers on the 16th. Complete and utter hell.
Now that I think about it, they are in for a ride for the next couple of months. People will try to get this book one way or another from the library regardless of how much easier it would be to just buy the book.
You should see some of the nasty things people do to us and other people just to get a hold on the limited supply of HP books the county buys whenever a new one is released.
Why don't you tell us instead of bitching about it? I fail to see how its "going to be hell" for the people who work at the library when you will only have half a dozen copies, if even that many, of the book that will have a very long waiting list for about a year. I mean that can't even compare to actually working in a book store. At mine we're not even expecting to get out until about 3 or 4 in the morning. But yeah you sure have it hard closing at what 9?
Nivea
07-09-2005, 02:28 AM
True. I suspect that the bookstores will be 10 times worse, but come to my library and then judge for yourself. I am in no way bitching, but rather just venting since I just remember so fondly how bad it was when book 5 came out.
Meh. I just hope they learned from last times mistake.
keith, evil dude
07-15-2005, 03:33 PM
Hi, I would just like to say:
*spoiler*
DUMBLEDORE DIES.
spoiler image (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v374/keithevildude200/spoiler.jpg)
*spoiler*
Shuin
07-15-2005, 03:37 PM
This is probably just another of Harry's puberty hallucinations since if he really died, everybody would be using the page where it actually happens.
Or whatever helps me sleep at night.
The West Exit
07-15-2005, 05:15 PM
Soon I'm going and staying at of my local bookstore. It's a small place and I know the owner so he's keeping it open for about 5 people. So we're gonna play Halo 2 while we wait so we can buy it at 12:01.
Blind Unknown
07-16-2005, 07:21 AM
O=***SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILS THE WHOLE BOOK SPOILER***=O
Dumbledore dies, poisoned and killed with the Avada Kederva (death) curse by the Half-Blood Prince whom is Snape, Snape is the Half-Blood Prince because his mother's maiden name was Prince, thus making him a half-blood Prince, In reality the book is called "Harry Potter and Severus Snape".
Peace.
<Edit>Oh fuck you Keith for beating me about the Dumbledore death.
O=***SPOILER SPOILER OVER SPOILER***=O
AcquiredTarget
07-16-2005, 12:35 PM
Meh. Cookies to donuts it was a scam and Dumbledore will be back in the next book. Snape was the potions teacher. And if not, oh well.
alexsan
07-16-2005, 12:41 PM
I'm going to get it in a week where it will be half price at BJ's Wholesales
mecha_samurai14
07-16-2005, 12:50 PM
My mom got it for me, but I have to wait 'till I finish reading The Natural for school.
Blind Unknown
07-16-2005, 01:41 PM
Harry Potter spoiler! (http://www.uploadhouse.com/images/586348651hpspoiler.jpg)
Edit: If you're going to do this, please do it as a link and provide fair warning - Apulo
The West Exit
07-17-2005, 02:08 PM
You ruined the ending that I've already read!!!!!!!!!!
You cold heartless bastard, think of the cute fluffy bunnies, the fluffy bunnies.
Holland
07-17-2005, 07:37 PM
Book ruled pretty hard, I thought.
http://pottercrash.ytmnd.com/
Found this pretty hilarious. **Spoilers**
I wonder if there is a video of that
keith, evil dude
07-17-2005, 09:54 PM
I got it today and finished it today.
Wow, what a depressing book.
Shady45
07-17-2005, 10:18 PM
http://pottercrash.ytmnd.com/
Found this pretty hilarious. **Spoilers**
I wonder if there is a video of that
*SPOILERS in link below*
http://www.filefarmer.com/Xizer/pottercrash.MOV
Good stuff.
*SPOILERS in link below*
http://www.filefarmer.com/Xizer/pottercrash.MOV
Good stuff.
lol awesome, too bad it was real blurry and he didnt stick around to see most of their reactions.
Emptythought
07-18-2005, 05:48 AM
ive read almost all of it, and i think the constant homeland security jokes are fucking hilarious, although as with all previous potter books its like a 4 hour movie
just to damn long
alexsan
07-18-2005, 08:46 AM
I got it yesterday and I am reading the sparknotes of the last one to find out what happened (I didn't finish it). I am going to start the new one today. I'm glad JK Rowling didn't make it longer than the Order of the Phoneix
The West Exit
07-18-2005, 05:07 PM
ive read almost all of it, and i think the constant homeland security jokes are fucking hilarious, although as with all previous potter books its like a 4 hour movie
just to damn long
That's the best way I've heard them discribed. I was reading this one and I reallized that it's almoast all dialouge and barley any discribing, just like a script.
alexsan
07-18-2005, 09:49 PM
I read about 40 pages and it's pretty good. It doesn't do alot of describing the scene but you do get a good image of whats going on
inertname
07-18-2005, 09:52 PM
Bought it day it came out but have yet to open it, too many books backlogged as it is.
Before I do I'll probably do as alexsan said, read all 5 but cant remember the 5th for the life of me.
Carps
07-21-2005, 02:06 PM
I finished it after a non-stop reading session from Friday Night to Saturday Night, and my opinions are as followed:
(1) I'm very happy Harry seems to be making the transition from angsty teenager to young adult. I don't know if I could have taken another book with Harry brooding.
(2) The end of the book is wonderful. Dark, mysterious, my thoughts are that the person we think to be gone...may not be be completly gone. He may very well have applied some of the same arts Voldemort uses to not die. Remember this person has never been a character that is simply black and white, he has always bent the rules, and he might be using his death as a means of discovering the true identity of another professor at the school. That's as non-spoiler as I can get.
(3) I'm more in love with Hermione then ever before.
I thought this was a pretty interesting article..
Pirates of the Potter-ian (http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,68269,00.html)
If you don't get with the times, prepare to be pirated up the wazoo.
AcquiredTarget
07-21-2005, 02:35 PM
I spent about an hour thumbing through the first five to figure out who left that note in the end. Good Lord, I need a life.
Octocamo
07-21-2005, 03:58 PM
http://www.kohek.net/harrypotter6/
One dumbass kid from Cumberland, Maine put the whole book up in text on his webpage.
I hope his ass gets sued.
Tom the First
07-21-2005, 04:19 PM
http://www.kohek.net/harrypotter6/
One dumbass kid from Cumberland, Maine put the whole book up in text on his webpage.
I hope his ass gets sued.
Your brother ruined the book for me on CSS. :mad:
keith, evil dude
07-21-2005, 09:06 PM
Why the fuck would you spoil a book that so many people have looked forward to? It's not funny. It's a pathetic attempt at being funny or trying to make a joke. Just fucking low.
LOL, SNAPE IS THE HALF-BLOOD PRINCE.
The West Exit
07-21-2005, 09:58 PM
[edit]
for spoilers see the rest of the thread.
Carps
07-21-2005, 10:04 PM
Can anyone, possibly, intellectually discuss or, even, just make some interesting observations or an interesting observation about the book without just writing spoilers in big font? This was a thread, originally, intended to discusse the book for fans. Not for little kids to shout the end in big words.
keith, evil dude
07-21-2005, 10:09 PM
Can anyone, possibly, intellectually discuss or, even, just make some interesting observations or an interesting observation about the book without just writing spoilers in big font? This was a thread, originally, intended to discusse the book for fans. Not for little kids to shout the end in big words.
SNAPE KILLES DUMBLEDORE.
The West Exit
07-21-2005, 10:30 PM
Can anyone, possibly, intellectually discuss or, even, just make some interesting observations or an interesting observation about the book without just writing spoilers in big font? This was a thread, originally, intended to discusse the book for fans. Not for little kids to shout the end in big words.
I didn't like HBP. I thought it was the worst one. She seemed to be rusheed to finish it so all she did was dialogue. That got really anoying. None of the charecters were discribed any more. None of them changed. All the development was in the last chapter. Besides that they were static begining to end. She wrote Ron like he appeared in the movies. He begame a totally different person from 5 to 6.
Blackwolf
07-21-2005, 10:52 PM
Guys, don't make me do mod work by posting spoilers. Be courteous to other members.
Next time I'll just ban the user after placing in the PROVIDED SPOILER TAGS around your post so I won't have to do it again because I'm lazy.
AcquiredTarget
07-22-2005, 10:52 PM
Wow, a (relatively) open-minded fundamentalist. I am an Evangelical Christian and a "Harry Potter" fan. Is this a contradiction? Well, yes and no.Yikes!"Harry Potter" is fictionDayum, he gets it. The danger here is not "Harry Potter." We can learn good and bad things from Harry and his world. The danger is mixing fantasy and reality, regardless of whether the fantasy is magic, fashion photos, cowboys or whatever. That is a powerful and persistent problem for all of us, including me.Ohhh, he's gonna be burnin' for this. link (http://www.startribune.com/stories/1519/5521398.html)
-Damien
07-23-2005, 09:36 AM
(2) The end of the book is wonderful. Dark, mysterious, my thoughts are that the person we think to be gone...may not be be completly gone. He may very well have applied some of the same arts Voldemort uses to not die. Remember this person has never been a character that is simply black and white, he has always bent the rules, and he might be using his death as a means of discovering the true identity of another professor at the school. That's as non-spoiler as I can get.
I doubt it, he made it seem like a terrible thing, doubt he would do something he is against. One thing i don't get is that the Pheonix brought Harry back to life in the second, why couldn't he bring back dumbledore?
Carps
07-24-2005, 12:52 PM
The new Entertainment Weekly has a huge blowout article and Harry Potter on the cover. The article surrounds the new Goblet of Fire, the release of the sixth book, but has some very interesting debates-- for instance-- a debate as to whether or not Snape is good or bad.
However, the magazine does make some predictions regarding Book 7
SPOILERS BELOW IF YOU HAVE NOT FINISHED BOOK 6
1) R.A.B stands for Regulas Black, the brother of Sirius and Death Eater. A locket was once found in Book Five, in the Grimmauld Place, yet it was "unopenable". Perhaps, Regulas isn't so bad after-all.
2) According to J.K., Aunt Petunia's full purpose has yet to be explained.
3) No new major characters in Book 7. However, minor characters in the Order, who have only been barely mentioned, will play a large role in the final Book. Entertainment Weekly suggests Abeforth Dumbledore, Albus' brother.
4) The fact Dumbledore never explains the burnt hand, leaves EW speculating he may very well return.
5) This month J.K. said that there would have to be a new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher meaning school will probably continue, and Harry might even attend despite what he said. Perhaps, Voldemort will be after the sword of Griffyndor as Dumbledore suggested.
Dangerous Beans
07-26-2005, 07:55 PM
As a whole, I liked the book. Thought it gave us the info we've been wanting for every so long about His Lordship (*rolls eyes*), and it was generally well written and great as the HP books usually are.
HOWEVER.
I thought that Harry was COMPLETELY out of character at the beginning of the book. Sirius just DIED a week or two ago, and he's moved on and happy. You'd think he'd be pissed off at least ONCE, but nope. Ah well, it doesn't matter.
Of coures, he better be pissed off at the beginning of HP7 XD
prince sparrow hawk
07-26-2005, 08:07 PM
how do you see he's moved on he was asleep in the begining of the book dumble dore had to comfort him about it and besides harry barely spoke in the begining
The West Exit
07-26-2005, 08:24 PM
how do you see he's moved on he was asleep in the begining of the book dumble dore had to comfort him about it and besides harry barely spoke in the begining
The whole book was him speaking, or another charecter speaking.
I really don't understand the point of spoiling a book or a movie for anyone. I mean, was it spoiled for you so you're just mad? If so, that's just immature. I always thought it was "forum ettiquette" to warn of spoilers. I guess that all went to hell. I honesly think whoever was involved in spoiling this book without warning should be temporarily banned. It's just fucking ridiculous.
Rant over.
I just finished the book. It was very good (although knowing the end beforehand because of spoilers hurt a little). Everything can't always be happy all the time and I really don't know what to expect for the last book, which I think is a good thing.
Shuin
07-28-2005, 12:25 PM
I thought that Harry was COMPLETELY out of character at the beginning of the book. Sirius just DIED a week or two ago, and he's moved on and happy. You'd think he'd be pissed off at least ONCE, but nope. Ah well, it doesn't matter.
Happy? He said he locked himself up, refusing meals sitting on his bed the whole time thinking about him. Depression is far from moved on and happy.
I just got past the part where they were spying on Draco in Knockturn Alley, and Hermione went in and stupidly gave herself away.
I'm really enjoying it so far. Hope it has this mood the whole way through, opposed to the gloomy "the world is going to end" mood it seemed to have at the beginning.
keith, evil dude
07-28-2005, 02:44 PM
I really don't understand the point of spoiling a book or a movie for anyone. I mean, was it spoiled for you so you're just mad? If so, that's just immature. I always thought it was "forum ettiquette" to warn of spoilers. I guess that all went to hell. I honesly think whoever was involved in spoiling this book without warning should be temporarily banned. It's just fucking ridiculous.
grape mills fumbledore
AcquiredTarget
07-28-2005, 04:04 PM
I really don't understand the point of spoiling a book or a movie for anyone. I mean, was it spoiled for you so you're just mad? If so, that's just immature..In a psych class I took, we had a discussion about topics like this. Basically, the "theory" (if I remember) was that they are trying to get a sense of power because they're making up for insecurities or compensating for something they feel is lacking. Personally, I call bullshit on those theories, they're just miserable little shits.
I thought the book was pretty good. JK looks to have set things up for a good ending in the final book.
Blackwolf
07-28-2005, 04:05 PM
Meh, it gave me a reason to pull the itchy suspension trigger finger. I was tired of editing the majority of his posts.
Amplifiar
07-29-2005, 12:12 AM
I am on I think Page 170, and I love it so far. Very well written. Too bad TM gave me the fucking climax.
Wow.
Can you really ban someone for saying Grape mills fumblefore.
I mean, I understand that he's said it before without spoiler tags, but c'mon.
If you're on the internet often, you probably already know what happens.
mecha_samurai14
07-29-2005, 04:16 PM
Spoiler for the 7th book...
Somebody might die!
Blackwolf
07-29-2005, 04:28 PM
Wow.
Can you really ban someone for saying Grape mills fumblefore.
I mean, I understand that he's said it before without spoiler tags, but c'mon.
If you're on the internet often, you probably already know what happens.
I sure can.
It's not like you guys weren't warned.
I don't have the time to deal with people who wish to "push the limits" of our very, very, very few requests as far as rules.
EDIT: And yes, every time I have to edit someone's post, I give negative rep. These days it's the only reason I give negative rep.
mecha_samurai14
07-29-2005, 04:54 PM
In the beginning of the 7th book, Voldermort kills Ron, Hermione and Harry go on to have a relationship.
Wow.
Can you really ban someone for saying Grape mills fumblefore.
I mean, I understand that he's said it before without spoiler tags, but c'mon.
If you're on the internet often, you probably already know what happens.
Why not? The book wouldn't have been spoiled for me if I didn't visit allgames and I'm "on the internet often". It's a stupid and childish thing for someone to do. It's not funny and it pisses a lot of people off.
Emptythought
08-01-2005, 05:30 AM
Why not? The book wouldn't have been spoiled for me if I didn't visit allgames and I'm "on the internet often". It's a stupid and childish thing for someone to do. It's not funny and it pisses a lot of people off.
your lucky
all my friends called me to tell me, just to be asshats, and i saw it on 4chan/my forums/interflop/lots of other places before the book even came out.
your lucky
all my friends called me to tell me, just to be asshats, and i saw it on 4chan/my forums/interflop/lots of other places before the book even came out.
The only other forums I post at are forums for different bands and in their "off-topic" forums, they had threads labeled, "For those who have finished Harry Potter. Spoilers galore." So the only way I would have had anything spoiled there was to read those threads.
Frequency
08-01-2005, 10:06 AM
I had a bit of it spoiled for me as well, but there's more to a book than the peak event, it's how it came about. So I didn't mind too much. On a whole this book felt less like a new year at Hogwarts, and more of segue into the final events of the series. Almost like it could have been Book #5 1/2, rather than an entire new read. There just wasn't all that much going on, I was disappointed at the lack of depth that's usually present in these books. Everything was spelt out for you, everything was explained, some people may like that, but I don't. I enjoyed wondering what the Sorcerer's Stone was, who the heir of Slytherin was, who Sirius Black was, who wanted Harry dead in the Triwizard Tournament, and what the hell they were gonna do about the Ministry. But there were no such questions looming over my head as I closed this book, no big mystery of any sort with the exception of R.A.B. A few other things I didn't like:
1. Lack of classtime. In previous books there were hundreds of pages dedicated to what was going on in classes. Such is not the case here. I expected, with Snape being the new DADA teacher, that there would be humorously dark lessons with him. But there was nothing. What's the deal with that?
2. As mentioned before, everything was spelt out for you, there was little to no thought needed on the reader's part.
3. After the closing fight at the Ministry in book 5, I was expecting more of the same in book 6. How wrong I was. Too much backstory without the balance of some action.
Couple things I liked:
1. Regardless, I enjoyed the pensieve chapters a great deal. Learning about the past was fun, and things make more sense now.
2. The teenage flirting. We all knew it was going to happen sooner or later in the series, but I was satisfied with how Rowling handled it. Subtle and not the main plot by any stretch of the imagination, but still remained in the background. It had a "realistic" feel to it. But for fucks sake will Ron just kiss Hermione already? Jesus Christ.
That's my 2 cents on book 6. Now, I have some questions I've been thinking about in the final book.
How the hell is Harry supposed to stand up against Voldemort, when he can't even fight the Death Eaters? He's gonna need some serious training if he wants to stand a chance. "Blocked again and again and again, Potter. Until you learn to close your mind"
Horcruxes. How do you suppose you destroy them? Dumbledore nearly died getting rid of one, something tells me it's not a walk in the park. Which brings me again to my first question.
Sorry if these topics have been discussed, I'm just eager to get my thoughts out there. I plan on reading the thread right now, after I post this. Also, mods, if you feel any of my post is spoiling something, please edit it for me.
AcquiredTarget
08-01-2005, 02:29 PM
1. Lack of classtime. In previous books there were hundreds of pages dedicated to what was going on in classes. Such is not the case here. I expected, with Snape being the new DADA teacher, that there would be humorously dark lessons with him. But there was nothing. What's the deal with that?I agree that certain school-related areas were glossed over, but since JK pretty much wrote in detail about these aspects in the earlier books, I didn't mind too much I felt she more than made up for it in the last few chapters.
That's my 2 cents on book 6. Now, I have some questions I've been thinking about in the final book.
How the hell is Harry supposed to stand up against Voldemort, when he can't even fight the Death Eaters? He's gonna need some serious training if he wants to stand a chance. "Blocked again and again and again, Potter. Until you learn to close your mind"Speculative spoiler in the next bookDon't forget, according to Dumbeldore, that Wormtail is in Harry's debt for sparing his life in book three. I suspect that it'll actually be Wormtail who'll grudingly turn the tide, the ultimate symbolic gesture of redemption.
Frequency
08-01-2005, 04:03 PM
Speculative spoiler in the next bookDon't forget, according to Dumbeldore, that Wormtail is in Harry's debt for sparing his life in book three. I suspect that it'll actually be Wormtail who'll grudingly turn the tide, the ultimate symbolic gesture of redemption.
Bunch of stuff:
I never thought of Wormtail helping Harry, that's certainly a possibility. Slughorn seems to know a lot about Horcruxes, and Dark Arts in general, so maybe he too will lend Harry a hand.
I also think Snape is still a good guy. I have a few reasons why:
1. From Chapter 2, page 36, "'And, should it prove necessary . . . if it seems Draco will fail . . .' whispered Narcissa (Snape's hand twiched within hers, but he did not draw away)"
Why would his hand twitch? Why would this detail be added if it didn't mean something? I think Snape was lying when he told the sisters he knew about the mission, just to get the information out of them. He agreed to the oath to make his allegiance appear solid, but he had no clue what he was agreeing to. When he actually found out, he informed Dumbledore, and the old man told him to go through with it, no matter what.
2. I forget where, but Hagrid, I think, overhears Snape and Dumbledore arguing about something. Perhaps the oath and what must be done?
3. The act of killing Dumbledore was out of character for Snape. He enjoys hurting others, and usually smirks when he does it. There was none of this during Dumbledore's death. He marches up, pushes people out of the way, does the deed, and marches back down. He is not pleased. I think if any other Dead Eater completed such a huge mission for Voldy, that he or she would be jumping for joy afterward.
Another point here, Dumbledore is heard saying "Snape.. please" I don't think this was pleading in a "don't do it" tone, but more of a "you know it has to be done" Besides, it's Dumble-fuckin-dore. The only wizard who ever struck fear into Voldemort. Begging for his life? I think not.
4. Dumbledore is dead, the school is virtually wide open for attack, why didn't he inform Voldemort?
5. He had Harry strung up by his balls, metaphorically speaking. He could have used a whole variety of dark magic to do him serious harm but instead chose to give him advice? And good advice, at that? From Chapter 28, page 604, "Blocked again and again and again until you learn to keep your mouth shut and your mind closed, Potter!" He eventually does use a spell on him, only after Harry shows no stopping in his will to follow. But I feel it was only to stop him temporarily, allowing himself to escape, and keep Harry safe at Hogwarts.
6. The last, and most important fact, I feel, is that Snape is always regarded as the world's greatest occlumens. Voldemort is the world's greatest legimens, cancelling each other out. I think, with a great deal of effort, Snape could keep his thoughts out of reach from Voldy.
One more thing I think I should add to this is, Dumbledore is DEAD. He's not coming back, he was killed plain and simple. The spell on Harry lifted after he fell, meaning the conjurer is dead. It even says that in the book. Rowling also stated in a recent interview that once a character is dead, they stay dead. I'm more interested to see how the portrait works into the story, if at all.
Hm, I think that's all for now.
MageMasher
08-02-2005, 11:05 PM
I have yet to pick the book up and sadly do not have the time to read it, so can someone PM me what happens in it?
Please and thank you.
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