Stargate SG-1

[Goldeh]

The only show I really watch religiously is Stargate SG-1. Season 8 just premiered tonight on Sci Fi channel. I have been following the show for the whole 8 seasons and it is one of the more cleverly written shows I have seen.

[nekobun]

I just got into SG-1 at the suggestion of a cute underage girl. I really like how they've been meshing mythology and sci-fi. I remember being really worried about spinning the movie off into a show, but the show's definitely surpassed the film by now.

[Digital*Firefly]

I saw there's gonna be a Stargate: Atlantis or something. Do you have any details on that?

[nekobun]

All I know about the Atlantis thing is that it will a) be HOT and b) be on soonish, I think. It may just be a miniseries, but I'm not sure.

[Gene Starwind]

SG1 is still gonna be a lot better than Atlantis will ever be.
They got MacGyver! You can't beat that!

I'll watch it, might suck, who knows.
This is the last year for SG1. :cry:

[kadosho]

For a season opener, they always go all-out. Makes it quite an adventure to watch.
And leaves you wanting more, when you see the credits at the end.
====+
Though Season VIII has alot more in perspective, its only just started.
Its gonna be one heck of a season. 8)

[Goldeh]

Stargate Atlantis is going to be a spinoff show of SG-1. They have found the City of Atlantis, hopefully to find a new means of defeating the Ghou'ld. They only have enough power to make a one way trip so they assemble of a team to go through. The cast of SG-1 appears periodically throught the Atlantis season.

[Twinsen]

Stargate SG-1 is definitely one of the best shows on TV according to my asshole (opinion). Although I haven't watched it in a while because I have missed so many episodes, I just don't want to jump in the middle of it. I would love to grab all the DVDs though and just watch it one Saturday morning/noon/afternoon/evening/night...

[Duality]

GateWorld (http://www.gateworld.net/) -- for information about both series, including synopses and spoilers for every episode.

nekobun, I felt exactly as you did when I first started watching Stargate/SG-1. The way they've put everything together and done such a good job at keeping consistent throughout the entire series is just phenomenal.

They really do have some of the best SciFi writers since early/mid Star Trek: TNG.

Also, Daniel Jackson -- be he in the form of James Spader or Michael Shanks is dreamy!

[Arandar]

I love this show and can't wait for Atlantis and the rest of the season. The only thing I hate is I haven't seen all of season 6 because of FOX. DAMN YOU FOX! They show the same 5 or so episodes over and over again. I mean theres only around 20-22 episodes in season 6 and I have been watching it on FOX for over a year now and I still haven't seen all of them! Even though its like 50 bucks I think I will have a better chance of seeing all of them if I just go buy the DVDs to it. This is a really awsome show though, I just want it to keep going past season 8. I would think it would unless they somehow manage to actually kill off all the system lords and their underlings.

[Goldeh]

Im pretty sure this is the last season, but i dont know. The Season 8 premier set a rating record for all Stargate shows.

[Arandar]

I would imagine so based on how popular it is. I mean its the most popular highest rated show on all of Sci-Fi. Even FOX picked up showing repeats of season 6. Although as I mentioned above that does have its drawbacks. How did you find out the rating anyway? I have always wanted to check some of the rating for different shows since I always wanted to know what the rating were for Conan O'Brien compared to Leno and Letterman.

[Ichiban]

Im pretty sure this is the last season, but i dont know. The Season 8 premier set a rating record for all Stargate shows.

Cant be to sure about that, the orignally wanted season 7 to be the last one but they changed their minds when they were nearing the end. So you have to just watch and see if this is truly the end or they continue to do it.

I think they might continue SG-1 if Atlantis doesnt do that well.

[Arandar]

Either way I figure even if this is the last season of SG-1 then it won't be the last we see of them. I would imagine for the series to end all the System Lords would have to be defeated, as well as the Replicators. But then when Atlantis takes over you would have to figure unless the show just gets canned mid season eventually they will have to solve everything and come home right? Well you would need to show the SGC with the people who work there. So my guess is years down the road it will be a 2 hour fianlly or maybe a major motion picture or something to end the entire series once and for all.

I just hope Atlantis does pretty well. From what I have seen of the add Atlantis seems to be more of a serious drama type show then SG-1 is. I mean no Richard Dean Anderson so we can;t have any of those classic Jack O'Neill(Niell?) moments afterall. Don't forget though Startgate Atlantis is on tonight at 9 on the Sci-Fi channel

[Goldeh]

its about 30 min into the season premier of Atlantis. I just noticed something, Dr. Weir's husband and or boyfriend is played by the same actor who played Nareem on SG-1, he was one of the Tolan and Major Carters "love" interest.

[Arandar]

its about 30 min into the season premier of Atlantis. I just noticed something, Dr. Weir's husband and or boyfriend is played by the same actor who played Nareem on SG-1, he was one of the Tolan and Major Carters "love" interest.

I was wondering why he looked so familiar. Why did they change actresses for Dr. Weir anyway? I kinda liked the other one, but this one is fine to. Anyway I thought it was pretty cool. A few stupid things of course like everyone magically being able to speak English, but other then that it was pretty good. The Wraith are basically vampires though so that seems kinda cool. Heh I think it would be pretty cool to see a half Ancient half Wraith with a Tok'ra symbiote inside him. That thing would be basically immortal and the strongest being to ever live.

As for SG-1 I hope we get to see Hammond again since he wasn't in the premiere. I get the feeling that Hammond and the President will just be talked about roles though which kind of sucks. I want to know what he was promoted to, my guess is full General since he was a Major General before. Heh I just hope Hammond and Jack meet again and they use an awsome line O'Niell would say. I'm sure every fan of the series can just imagine them meeting again and Hammond congradulating Jack and O'Niell saying "so does this mean I get to call you George now?" That line would just be classic.

[Twinsen]

its about 30 min into the season premier of Atlantis. I just noticed something, Dr. Weir's husband and or boyfriend is played by the same actor who played Nareem on SG-1, he was one of the Tolan and Major Carters "love" interest.

I was wondering why he looked so familiar. Why did they change actresses for Dr. Weir anyway? I kinda liked the other one, but this one is fine to. Anyway I thought it was pretty cool. A few stupid things of course like everyone magically being able to speak English, but other then that it was pretty good. The Wraith are basically vampires though so that seems kinda cool. Heh I think it would be pretty cool to see a half Ancient half Wraith with a Tok'ra symbiote inside him. That thing would be basically immortal and the strongest being to ever live.

As for SG-1 I hope we get to see Hammond again since he wasn't in the premiere. I get the feeling that Hammond and the President will just be talked about roles though which kind of sucks. I want to know what he was promoted to, my guess is full General since he was a Major General before. Heh I just hope Hammond and Jack meet again and they use an awsome line O'Niell would say. I'm sure every fan of the series can just imagine them meeting again and Hammond congradulating Jack and O'Niell saying "so does this mean I get to call you George now?" That line would just be classic.

Yeah, as I was watching Atlantis last night, I was so out of the loop when I heard someone refer to Jack as General. I was like, WTF he's a general now!? Then I was told at the end of season 7 he was promoted. I GUESS he deserved it since he'd saved the world so many times before. :D But seriously, I think I need to grab the ALL the DVDs and just lock my door one night and watch them all back to back. Maybe invite some of you over for pizza or something...

[Arandar]

Heh I would come but you live in TN. ROAD TRIP! :P

Anyway I'm really looking forward to season 8. I hope the Tok'ra come back. For some reason I just really like the character of Jacob Carter/Selmac. I just think hes pretty cool and a nice guy, like storywise.

I wish they would do something with Ra's forces though. If anyone remembers when they first met the Tok'ra it was Garsha i think her name is that asked were you among those that defeated The Supreme System Lord Ra? Well since we all know how the System Lords work then it should seem obvious that Ra had the biggest forces in terms of ships and Jaffa. So what happened to them then? There has been no mention of his forces at all and they have never encountered them. So I just think it would be nice for something to happen with them. Maybe have Amon as in underlord take control of them, or did years ago but just never showed himself until hes super powerful.

[Gene Starwind]

Why did they change actresses for Dr. Weir anyway? I kinda liked the other one, but this one is fine to.
I'm pretty sure she died in the storyline, unless they brought her back somehow after the episode I saw.

[Arandar]

Why did they change actresses for Dr. Weir anyway? I kinda liked the other one, but this one is fine to.
I'm pretty sure she died in the storyline, unless they brought her back somehow after the episode I saw.

No they just changed the actress who plays here. The character herself is still alive and kicking. Infact Dr. Weir is in charge of the team that went to Atlantis. They just changed the actress for some reason. To make it even more weird instead of trying to get an actress who kind of looks the same they changed from a blonde to a brunette. So thats kind of strange if you ask me. Oh well its all good and I'm still going to be watching both shows. :-D

[Duality]

Then I was told at the end of season 7 he was promoted. I GUESS he deserved it since he'd saved the world so many times before. :D End of S8 premiere, actually. For SHAME Twinsen. I thought you were a fan!

I wish they would do something with Ra's forces though. If anyone remembers when they first met the Tok'ra it was Garsha i think her name is that asked were you among those that defeated The Supreme System Lord Ra? Well since we all know how the System Lords work then it should seem obvious that Ra had the biggest forces in terms of ships and Jaffa. So what happened to them then? It was more or less alluded to early on (S2 or 3) that the remnants of his forces were likely taken over by Hathor (Ra's mate), or Heru-Ur (Ra and Hathor's son).

As for the new Dr Weir -- I prefer Torri Higginson. Jessica Steen gave a fine performance, but really, she seemed too Carter-like to me. A leggy blonde who is well versed in a multitude of skills. I can see why they'd want to make the character as distinct as possible. At the time of filming the last episodes of S7, they still weren't certain on Atlantis' fate. I don't think the producers ever stated a reason why they changed her, though.

[Gene Starwind]

End of S8 premiere, actually. For SHAME Twinsen. I thought you were a fan!

It was more or less alluded to early on (S2 or 3) that the remnants of his forces were likely taken over by Hathor (Ra's mate), or Heru-Ur (Ra and Hathor's son).

As for the new Dr Weir -- I prefer Torri Higginson. Jessica Steen gave a fine performance, but really, she seemed too Carter-like to me. A leggy blonde who is well versed in a multitude of skills. I can see why they'd want to make the character as distinct as possible. At the time of filming the last episodes of S7, they still weren't certain on Atlantis' fate. I don't think the producers ever stated a reason why they changed her, though.
I remember an episode where she died... did anyone else see this? Maybe she's just a relative.
It was one of thoes episodes with the camera team following them around making a documentary.

[Duality]

That was Janet Frasier, the SGC's chief medical officer.

Dr Weir has only been in four episodes of SG-1 -- the last two of S7 and the first two of S8.

[Arandar]

Hmmm I don't remember the part of it being alluded to that Ra's forces were taken over by Hathor or Heru-Ur. Still I wouldn't think so because Ra's forces were the biggest of all the System Lord's so they should instantly been the most powerfullest, which neither of them were really. Socar was more powerul basically. Plus there have to be at least some of Ra's Jaffa still around on some of his former worlds, yet it seems a bit strange to me that they have never encountered any of them anywhere, ever. I think it would be cool, but I suppose its just never going to happen.

[Duality]

I'm sure there were segments of Ra's forces not with him were still on the loose.

Some things to bear in mind ....

- Its possible he had the vast majority of his most powerful Jaffa with him on his ship. Teal'c explained at the end of S1 that he had never been on Apophis' new Ha'tak. Its fair to assume that Ra was the sole owner of that type of ship before he was destroyed.

- Because of the war-like nature of the Goa'uld, its likely that the power vacuum was filled very quickly. Apophis was the next in line, as it were, in terms of power. I'm sure either he or the rest of the System Lords conscripted much of Ra's remaining forces. It was only Heru-Ur and Hathor that used the Falcon guard helmet.

- More yet could also have been on the run, becoming shol'vah (traitors) much like Teal'c, only to later find that they have a place in the Jaffa rebellion.

I dunno. I can't keep up discussions like this without feeling like a shameful nerd.

[Gene Starwind]

That was Janet Frasier, the SGC's chief medical officer.

Dr Weir has only been in four episodes of SG-1 -- the last two of S7 and the first two of S8. Of course! Der... I just saw Dr and assumed it was her.

[Arandar]

I'm sure there were segments of Ra's forces not with him were still on the loose.

Some things to bear in mind ....

- Its possible he had the vast majority of his most powerful Jaffa with him on his ship. Teal'c explained at the end of S1 that he had never been on Apophis' new Ha'tak. Its fair to assume that Ra was the sole owner of that type of ship before he was destroyed.

- Because of the war-like nature of the Goa'uld, its likely that the power vacuum was filled very quickly. Apophis was the next in line, as it were, in terms of power. I'm sure either he or the rest of the System Lords conscripted much of Ra's remaining forces. It was only Heru-Ur and Hathor that used the Falcon guard helmet.

- More yet could also have been on the run, becoming shol'vah (traitors) much like Teal'c, only to later find that they have a place in the Jaffa rebellion.

I dunno. I can't keep up discussions like this without feeling like a shameful nerd.

Nah. This "nerd" term is pretty lame. I mean when I find something I love(book/movie/video game) I try to find out as much about the "universe" that all those characters exist in. Like Star Wars I probably know more then the average person, yet I have no doubt I am nowhere near as knowledgeable as some of the more hardcore fans. I would like to know more though since I have only read like 9 of the books.

Anyway I know they changed around some things from the movie to the series, but there well less then a dozen Jaffa with Ra on his ship. I mean just by counting them there were hardly any at all. Like why would they have so many of the villagers and then if there were so many Jaffa with Ra they only show a few? It would have been more dramatic and meaningful if the villagers had just destroyed a few hundred troops. So I still think most of Ra's troops are out there somewhere. I guess we'll just have to wait and see though.

BTW, I never knew it was "shol'vah" I always thought it was showva, or at least thats the way it is usually always said on the show anyway.

[Duality]

Anyway I know they changed around some things from the movie to the series, but there well less then a dozen Jaffa with Ra on his ship. I mean just by counting them there were hardly any at all. That we saw. :)

All we saw were a brief glimpse of the bring, and Ra's chambers.
It would have been more dramatic and meaningful if the villagers had just destroyed a few hundred troops. So I still think most of Ra's troops are out there somewhere. I guess we'll just have to wait and see though. Good point on the battle. I really hadn't thought of that. I'm going to guess that we'll never really find out what happened to his forces. At this point it could be explained away, as I mentioned, them joining the Jaffa rebellion.

But I do like the idea of finding out what has happened to the older Goa'uld forces that we saw in the movie/early seasons. As it is, it looks like the System Lords are on their way out as a dominant race of the galaxy. Lord Yu's dying, the others are weak as heck (even one of the System Lords wanted sanctuary because he lost all of his forces), and the first two eps set up the Replicators as the big baddie this season.

We'll just have to see.

BTW, I never knew it was "shol'vah" I always thought it was showva, or at least thats the way it is usually always said on the show anyway. Yeah, I didn't know how to spell it either, until I found it written on Gateworld.net.

[Arandar]

Did you see the From Stargate to Atlantis show? On that they basically said for this season Bale(sp?) is going to be like a total badass and gain more power and brag about stuff and whatnot. Thats pretty cool since I like him. Unfortuanatly they can't but I have always wanted to see a Star Destroyer for a mother ship. Heh that would be sweet. Especially a Super Star Destroyer.

I have always wondered though how big are their ships? They act like they are huge on the show but they don't seem that big to me. An ISD, Imperial Star Destroyer, is supposed to be exactly one mile long with the Super Star Destroyers being 8 kilometers long, which equals to around 5 miles or so I forget the exact amount of kilometers per mile. I know the Goa'uld ships are probably taller, but overall they don't seem that big. I mean basically 1 or 2 people can fly them, an ISD houses a crew of 16,000!

What I really want this season though is the return of Jacob and Selmac. I don't know why but for some reason I just really like those two more then any of ther other Tok'ra or Goa'uld really. I wonder though what would happen if Jacob did leave the Tok'ra as he was saying he had the option to near the end of last season. I mean does Selmac come with him because he wants to? Or does Selmac find a new host to stay with the Tok'ra? Maybe they might explain something like that this season, hopefully anyway.

[Goldeh]

I think his name is spelled Baal.

[Duality]

I have always wondered though how big are their ships? Well they showed, in the movie, that the Ha'tak (the pyramid motherships) is designed to land on the Great Pyramid at Giza -- which has a base of 55,000 meters wide and 150 meters tall.

I mean basically 1 or 2 people can fly them, an ISD houses a crew of 16,000! Bear in mind that the 16,000 crew members are doing all sorts of jobs to support those 16,000 crew members. I'm sure just a handful of people could fly a Star Destroyer.

What I really want this season though is the return of Jacob and Selmac. I don't know why but for some reason I just really like those two more then any of ther other Tok'ra or Goa'uld really. I'm sure they will return. I love Carmen Argenziano. Such a great character with perfect delivery. I think my favorite episode with Jacob/Selmac is the one where they find Cronus' mothership. Just some of his best lines ever.

I wonder though what would happen if Jacob did leave the Tok'ra as he was saying he had the option to near the end of last season. I mean does Selmac come with him because he wants to? Or does Selmac find a new host to stay with the Tok'ra? Maybe they might explain something like that this season, hopefully anyway. I imagine its up to Selmac what he wants to happen. Since the blending is completely voluntary, I imagine if Jacob wanted out, all he'd have to do is say so and they'd find a new host for Selmac to blend with.

[Goldeh]

Wow, both Stargate SG-1 and Stargate: Atlantis episodes were good. I felt Dr. Mckay was annoying on SG-1 and the first episode of Atlantis, but im starting to warm up to him...especially when he uses the phrase "manly hunger" as a term for fainting.

[Duality]

I agree. I absolutely loved both episodes, even if it did seem the episodes' enemies were entirely too similar.

McKay was an ass in the SG-1 episodes he was in, but I find that when he's not feeling completely inferior to Carter, he shines as a really good character.

Also, Sheppard throwing him off the balcony was just priceless!

[Arandar]

Heh nah I like how he said he shot him first. :D

As for the ISD thing, no they can't actually be flown by only a few people. Well a few people to have the thing actually FLY, but if you want the whole thing to be up and running in perfect working order you need at the very least a few hundred, if not a few thousand. In oneof the Star Wars books, I forget which one but its one of the 5 written by Timothy Zahn where Thrawn is taking over - I think the last 1 talking about Thrawn's clone with Mara JAde helping Luke, anyway in there a group of smugglers has taken control on an ISD and they can barely keep the thing afloat. You have to remember unlike Goa'uld ships an ISD has seperate consoles for each system/action. You can't just control everything at once, so on a Goa'uld ship you can fly the ship and control weapons with like 1 or two people but on an ISD you need at least a dozen people in the bridge alone to control everything, let alone people on other parts of the ship doing "damage control".

[JohnnyWuFei]

http://www.imageuploader.net/images/985700yay1.gif

[Duality]

bwahaha. Thanks for that.

But I had to fix it ...
http://stratoscape.ath.cx/img/mckayowned.gif

[AcquiredTarget]

Nice one, lmao when I saw it.

I liked the look of glee when Sheppard said "I shot him".

[JohnnyWuFei]

bwahaha. Thanks for that.

But I had to fix it ...
http://stratoscape.ath.cx/img/mckayowned.gif

LOL

That's great. I was thinking about doing that but decided not to due to laziness. :P

[Goldeh]

Just wanted to keep this thread alive and to say how entertaining both episodes of SG-1 and Atlantis were.

[Arandar]

Heh sweet I was going to go dig this up anyway to talk about last night's episodes. Who knew Jaffa heads were so much harder then human heads though? I mean the guy nearly broke his hand just from punching Teal'C on the top of his head, I would think that should hurt T at least a little bit. It was pretty sweet though seeing him kick their asses, heh and in some type of cotton almost disco looking clothes. Amazing how fashionable Teal'C has become. I wonder where rogue NID agents got Azgard tech though? My guess is they are working for Baal or something since only him and the Azgard have that technology. I hope the Tok'ra come back soon. :smt022

As for Atlantis all I have to say mostly is I liked "Steve". Good ep though, I'm really loving this series now when at first I thought it was only going to be so-so but I would watch it anyway since its part of the Stargate franchise. Now I love the show and want to watch it because I actually want to see what happens, and will continue to watch it if it goes on after SG-1 goes off the air.

[Duality]

Bear in mind, Teal'c's head ornament is solid gold. That can't feel good to anyone, really.

I have trouble seeing how anyone on Earth would be working for Baal. Its pretty difficult when the only real method of communication is the Stargate and its not exactly something someone can use without the whole facility knowing.

Sure, its possible they could be using a Goa'uld longrange comm device, but considering the last one was confiscated from Maybourne's off-world NID operation.

Besides, the guy said they were after the same thing as the Stargate program. Which I imagine means destroying people like Baal.

I loved last two week's episodes, though (downloaded it since I've been watching the Olympics instead of Stargate). I really like episodes that focus on the characters, and having two Teal'c episodes back to back is a welcome change. For the previous seven years, those episodes have largely been in the context of him and his homeworld of Chulak, or him and his relationship to the Goa'uld.

Also, I'm so happy to finally see Carter getting married. Amanda Tapping and David Deluise have such great chemistry together, that it would be crazy to kill him off at all.

[AcquiredTarget]

Also, I'm so happy to finally see Carter getting married. Amanda Tapping and David Deluise have such great chemistry together, that it would be crazy to kill him off at all. I really hate it when they do that, it seems like its done in most shows as an easy way to "develop" the surviving character. Sadly they could off him at some later date, which I hope they don't. But then his brother Peter (? the guy from SeaQuest) is a producer of one the two shows. But then that really could have little/no effect.

[Arandar]

Well Teal'C's whole head isn't gold, just the symbol thing on his forhead which I forget what its called. So his head is basically just one like a human's, but apparently its much much harder since hes Jaffa.

And the people could be working for Baal since they could actually be Goa'uld like Baal did with Jonis' world and whats her face. Daniel can't detect the presence of one so that could be it. As for what they want, the mission of SG-1 is to get new tech and all that, so they could be doing the same, just for a different reason. Either way they somehow got ahold of Azgard technology when the SGC doesn't even have those capabilities, just the Azgard and now Baal.

Heh Petes a cool guy though. I swear he seems familiar but I can't remember where I have seen him before(the actor). I liked in last season though how he goes "I told my Captain I met the woman of my dreams and I'm staying" or something like that, then Carter goes "So what did he say?" Pete: "Get your ass back here or your fired.". Heh I found that to be pretty funny.

I can't wait till next week, or this week actually, when apparently the whole world will finally find out about the Stargate. Hopefully the Tok'ra will come back now then from wherever they went. I miss Jacob/Selmack since he/they were/are awsome characters. It would be nice to see a "good" Goa'uld though for once. That would be kind of nice. I don't get the whole queen thing though since when Jacob became a Tok'ra they said Goa'uld are neither male or female, so then how is there a queen or makes more of them? Why don't the Tok'ra just become a queen or get one or something.

[Duality]

I really hate it when they do that, it seems like its done in most shows as an easy way to "develop" the surviving character. Sadly they could off him at some later date, which I hope they. But then his brother Peter (? the guy from SeaQuest) is a producer of one the two shows. But then that really could have little/no effect.
Well you may have a point.

I think Peter has run out of family to put on the show ... brothers Michael and David, and even father Dom have all had appearances on the show.

Well Teal'C's whole head isn't gold, just the symbol thing on his forhead which I forget what its called. So his head is basically just one like a human's, but apparently its much much harder since hes Jaffa.
Right. But he appeared to punch him right on the tattoo. And Jaffa are warriors. I imagine they have a pretty high tolerance to pain.

And the people could be working for Baal since they could actually be Goa'uld like Baal did with Jonis' world and whats her face.
But what I'm saying is that there wouldn't be a chance for that. Baal can't just drop a contingent of troops to Earth without anyone noticing. There's just no way to logically explain that.

Either way they somehow got ahold of Azgard technology when the SGC doesn't even have those capabilities, just the Azgard and now Baal.
This wouldn't be the first time they've stolen technology. We honestly don't know what they have. Just because the SGC doesn't have a piece of technology doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't given to them. After the latest conflict with the Replicators, its certainly possible that the Asgard gave Earth access to such technology, that could have been stolen. Or it could have been scheduled for implementation in the Prometheus project. We'll just have to see how its explained, but I seriously doubt Baal has anything to do with it.

I don't get the whole queen thing though since when Jacob became a Tok'ra they said Goa'uld are neither male or female, so then how is there a queen or makes more of them? Why don't the Tok'ra just become a queen or get one or something.
I have a feeling his reference to male/female had more to do with gender roles rather than sexual reproduction. I imagine the "queen" is something like the Xenomorph Queen. It just propagates the species, and has no identity of male or female.

I'm still not clear on the spawning process of the Goa'uld. In Cure (http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/s6/610.shtml) (from season six), Egeria (the mother of the Tok'ra) simply spawned her own children at will. In the first season, however; Hathor required the genetic material of another to make Goa'uld. There's a reference in that episode, that Daniel Jackson's DNA is included in that of Hathor's newly spawned Goa'uld. The lucky dog ...

[Arandar]

Yeah thats what I don't get. I mean are they asexual or what? I would hope that we would find out, because if they can just spawn new Goa'uld then why haven't the Tok'ra done the same to get more of their numbers? They keep dying out and eventually will just be gone alltogether, yet it seems like theres no possible way for them to get more Tok'ra. I was always curious about how many total there are anyway.

As for Baal, yeah he could do that. He has Azgard tech remember? Azgard motherships are cloaked and can't be detected in Earth's orbit by their satelittes and radar crap. So he could literally cloak a ship fly over and beem down troops to invade or to just spy. Why he doesn't do this I don't know, besides the obvious fact that everyone would die and it would basically end the show.

[Duality]

I don't buy it, but you seem pretty dedicated to this theory. To each their own.

[Arandar]

Heh I'm not necassarily "dedicated" to this theory, I just think its possible considering how they escaped that empty warehouse. And I mean why would the Azgard help some humans spy on the whole planet? So obviously they got it from somewhere, and Baal is the only other one to have that type of technology. Plus the last time the NID tried stealing stuff the Azgard knew they were doing it and came and took it all back, so I doubt they would be able to get away with this again, however sneaky they think they are. I know I'm right you'll see! :razz:

On a side note, or I should say moving on, Atlantis is a great show. The theme music is awsome to. Its a bit like the SG-1 music but I like the whole vocals type stuff from the choir. That makes it sound really cool. I'm wondering what this secret is that the new people they find and become allied with it. From the scenes shown it makes me almost think they are like half human half wraith. That would be kind of cool, and if you think about it give them the leeway to make a vampire since the wraith need to suck life to live and humans need blood to live, so it would match up.

[Duality]

Heh I'm not necassarily "dedicated" to this theory, I just think its possible considering how they escaped that empty warehouse. And I mean why would the Azgard help some humans spy on the whole planet?
Actually, I was referring more to humans owning a level of technology based on the Asgard transportation device. But now that you mention the idea of rogue Asgard ...

Plus the last time the NID tried stealing stuff the Azgard knew they were doing it and came and took it all back, so I doubt they would be able to get away with this again, however sneaky they think they are. I know I'm right you'll see! :razz:
That's because they were stealing directly from the Asgard/people of the Asgard. What I'm thinking is that they have technology that they stole from other humans. Afterall, its not the first time they had managed to get something on their own. Remember that Maybourne sold a Russian Goa'uld symbiote to Adrian Conrad. I have a feeling it'll turn out something like that.

But I really do like the idea of a rogue Asgard commander helping them out.

[Duality]

*** SPOILER ***










OH SHIT!!!! This is a great episode! I love the cat-and-mouse game Colson plays with the Government/SGC to try to get the truth out. Very interesting.

This is an interesting episode, because it sheds more light on just how extensive the alien technology we've acquired over the years has pervaded the private sector/outside of direct Pentagon influence.

With the ability to have cloned an Asgard body, I now believe its entirely possible we have access to teleportation technology like the Asgard possess. Afterall, we've got hyperdrive engines built into the X-303 Prometheus. Since defeating Anubis, I can easily imagine greater technologies being added to it since.

Yet another fantastic episode, and a guest appearance by Charles Shaughnessy, whom I've always liked.

[AcquiredTarget]

Yep. That it was. A great discussion on the shell game of developing advanced tech and keeping everyone in the dark is a great. Oooo, The Trust. Sounds ominous. While I hate the "reassignment" of Gen. Hammond, I lilke watching O'Neil get into these position that are totally different from his expedition days.

Oh yeah, I WANT MY OWN X303!!!!!!

[Duality]

Expect to see Gen. Hammond soon.

[Goldeh]

I agree, one of my favorites of the season. I'm always amazed at how well they connect plot points, like the cloned Asgard..I didnt see that one coming.

[Arandar]

Expect to see Gen. Hammond soon.
Heh yeah as in two weeks on Atlantis. Are they showing a movie next week or just repeating episodes? I thought they always played out the full half a season all in a row, then waiting that 4-5 months or so and then played the second half of the season all in a row. Does anyone know when the breaks for both shows will be? I always hate the wait inbetween them since it just takes sooooo LOOOOOOONG!

I think it was a good episode as well, I just wish we could have seen the President. I don't like how Hammond and the President have been basically written out of the show and are there in name only. There better be some guest appearances on this show at some point damnit! And what ever happened to Sarah? I mean they saved her from Isis and now shes basically jusst gone! You would think they would show the SGC, or at least Daniel, trying to get her to remember stuff to help them out. And no more Skara either! Did he become a Tok'ra? Thats what I don't get when the Tok'ra saved him from Clorel(sp?), he was in Tok'ra attire but I don't get if he became one, or if they just gave him that to wear since he wanted to get out of what Clorel made him wear right away. Hopefully this will all change at some point soon.

[JohnnyWuFei]

The character of Sarah won't be showing up this season. To see what became of Skaara, watch season six's finale "Full Circle."

BTW... check this out http://gateworld.net/news/movienews.html#newsitem1093576514,30025,

[Duality]

Heh yeah as in two weeks on Atlantis. Are they showing a movie next week or just repeating episodes? I thought they always played out the full half a season all in a row, then waiting that 4-5 months or so and then played the second half of the season all in a row. Does anyone know when the breaks for both shows will be? I always hate the wait inbetween them since it just takes sooooo LOOOOOOONG!
I think they've got some sort of special going on, but SciFi's site doesn't seem to be saying anything. Zap2it's tv guide hasn't shown next Friday's schedule yet, so I'm not sure what the deal is.

As for the mid-season break, I hate those. Interestingly enough, Sky TV in the UK usually resumes episodes two weeks or so before we do in the states. I usually just stop watching the show on TV and finish it off on bittorrent downloads.

That direct to DVD thing is a nice idea, actually. I'm curious to see what they'd do with it, as it was mentioned to take place during SG-1's second season (which is kind of odd when you look back at those episodes, and realize just how much color Rich Anderson's hair has lost!).

[AcquiredTarget]

Was that the actress who plays T'Pol on Star Trek Enterprise as Ishtar?

[Duality]

Yeah.

They introduced her last year and I guess the production team liked her (and vice versa) so much that they wanted to make her recurring.

Also, the best damned killing of a Goa'uld ever. You just can't get cooler than two missles aimed right at his chest!

[Arandar]

Yeah to bad we didn't get to see resulting explosion. I mean come on give us something here! We did finally get to see the big bad Maloch? I think that was it I forget. I must say I was a little bit dissapointed, I mean I thought he was going to be well uglier I suppose for being so bad, or just look meaner in general. I think that movie would be kind of cool, but it would be nice if they did do a full length feature film to maybe end it all or something. I think that would be fitting considering thats how it all started. Or maybe they could do that when Atlantis ends or something.

Has anyone read any of the books though? I have one of them I got from work, unfortuantly its the last one in the series of 5 by Bill McKay. Theres also at least 1 single one I know of that I was going to look at. I'm just wondering if they are worth checking out at all.

[Arandar]

:SPOILERS:





NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RIP Yu. That was kind of sad to see. Although it was kind of cool to just see a 3 foot long blade go straight through his chest. I liked Yu, and I really liked his First Prime, although his name escapes me at the moment. But fuck I can't believe he escaped! I thought it was Socar at first actually since he had the hood over his face all shadowy like Socar used to wear it. Unless thats what we were supposed to think? I must say I really did like that getup that Baal was wearing though. I think it would be cool to wear, but I might be a little to short to pull it off as effectively as he did.

Then Atlantis was good as usual. This has got to be my favorite new show, and is quickly becoming my favorite show right behind SG-1 I would say.

[Duality]

I thought it was Socar at first actually since he had the hood over his face all shadowy like Socar used to wear it. Unless thats what we were supposed to think?
I forget that I read the spoilers and watch the shows long before this, so I'm surprised you didn't realize he was back.

Useless tidbit, since you bring up Sokar. The original actor to play Anubis wasn't able to give the character a face because he was already used as the actor to play Sokar.

All I'm going to say is that it gets much better.

[Arandar]

Well you have to admit it did kind of look like him. The guy had that whole creepy eye look thing and with the hood he did look kind of look like Sokar. I just wonder how Anubis escaped from being frozen. I mean the guy was frozen solid. Then I have to wonder how soon he came back and basically started to order Baal around? This looks to be getting really good though, both Stargates. I mean an all out war for the Milky Way galaxy, and a Wraith attack on Atlantis with them "calling home". I can't wait, and I REALLY hate waiting.

20 bucks says that next season Apophis(sp) somehow comes back though.

[Duality]

Everything I'm reading says the next season will have a new enemy.

They made an announcement of who this new enemy is, but sadly it will be neither the Reetou or the Furling.

[Ichiban]

Well you have to admit it did kind of look like him. The guy had that whole creepy eye look thing and with the hood he did look kind of look like Sokar. I just wonder how Anubis escaped from being frozen. I mean the guy was frozen solid. Then I have to wonder how soon he came back and basically started to order Baal around? This looks to be getting really good though, both Stargates. I mean an all out war for the Milky Way galaxy, and a Wraith attack on Atlantis with them "calling home". I can't wait, and I REALLY hate waiting.

20 bucks says that next season Apophis(sp) somehow comes back though.

No I think that Apophis is still dead, but you do have to remember the Time ship. I would love to see Apophis back for good though! Also it was the guy who was frozen solid not Anubis since he is pretty much half accended.

[AcquiredTarget]

Time ship? Oh yeah. Ta hell with Apophis. Bring on Ra......again.

[Ichiban]

Time ship? Oh yeah. Ta hell with Apophis. Bring on Ra......again.

SPOILER


Yeah both Ra and Apophis are coming back at the end of the season for pretty much alternate future and the past. Got to love messing with the time-space continuum!

[Arandar]

Everything I'm reading says the next season will have a new enemy.

They made an announcement of who this new enemy is, but sadly it will be neither the Reetou or the Furling.
When the hell are we going to meet/see the Furlings damnit! I mean we have seen and met the Ancients, or at least some of them, and then the Nocks(sp?) and the Asgard, yet no Furlings. I think it would be kind of cool if the Furlings were like a more evolved type of Goa'uld. Like isn't furlong a type of measurment? Or was that just something I read in a Sci-Fi or Fantasy book? If so that would be cool since they could be kind of like gargoyles. The fangs and then the little fin type things on the back could be wings. And they would have to grow arms and legs of course.

As for Ra, yeah I knew they went back in time 5,000 years to try and stop Ra or do something rather, I forget exactly, but I didn't know Apophis was in the episode as well. What I want to know though is did they get the same actor who played Ra in the Stargate movie to play him in that episode? If so that would be awsome, but if not that kind of sucks.

[Duality]

No, they didn't get the same actor for Ra. They really didn't explain why not, though it could be that he was just not interested.

They get around it by keeping his headdress on when he's on-screen. Which makes sense, when you consider that the only time you see him is when he's in front of his human subjects.

I should clarify that they haven't said anything about the Furling yet. Its entirely possible that they will appear at some point, but when you consider the amount of time and number of worlds the Tau'ri have already visited, as well as their incredibly close relationship with the Asgard, its unlikely they would have missed one of the Four Great Races.

[AcquiredTarget]

Lessee, O'Neill going back in time. Oh You know that something is going to so wrong with him around.
"Carter, why is everything different?"
"Did you touch anything, Sir?"
"No, of course not. Maybe. Kinda. It was an accident, I swear."
"Jack, What'd you touch?"
"It was nothing, Daniel. Right Teal'c?"
"It would appear that it was something, O'Neill."
"Thanks for backing me up big guy."

Damn, I need a life http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/troll_beer_drinker/screwy.gif ........... or start writing. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/troll_beer_drinker/hump.gif

[Arandar]

Damn, I need a life http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/troll_beer_drinker/screwy.gif ........... or start writing. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/troll_beer_drinker/hump.gif
Heh it looks like you would rather start humping instead. :razz:

I think they should have got the same actor though. I mean then they could show his face and it would give us all some nostalgia(sp?). Of course if hes not interested theres nothing they can do, but I mean what has he been in since. Without looking it up does anyone even know his name? Its not like he has bigger more important projects to work on. I think I do remember seeing him in something a few months ago, but I don't even remember what the show/movie was and what part he played.

What I always thought would be cool though is if they pulled a McGayver type thing. Like their on some world trying to escape and O'Neill starts rigging stuff up and then Carter is like "What are you doing?" so O'Neill responds "Making a bomb." Then Carter would say "Sir who do you think you are, McGayver?" And then O'Neill would just give this long blank stare at her. Personally I think that would have been hilarious. But of course since O'Neill is a general now he doesn't go off world ever really so that can't/won't happen.

[Duality]

They've done a couple of MacGyver jokes throughout the show already.

As for the actor that played Ra -- Jaye Davidson -- really never held too much interest in acting. Since Stargate, he's worked almost exclusively in the fashion industry.

[Arandar]

Well I suppose I wouldn't know about the MacGyver jokes since the show was a little big ahead of my time. I know it started int he 80s but I forget when exactly. But it was over in the early 90s when I was like 6 or 7 so I never could get the chance to watch it much or get into it. Heh I think my grandmother used to watch it all the time. That, Murder She Wrote, and The Golden Girls. :lol:

I just wonder if next season the new enemy you speak of is going to be a Goa'uld. I mean they can't possibly have ANOTHER Goa'uld rise up to have the sheer amound of firepower that Anubis/Baal have. Since(and please don't tell me) I would think Anubis dies or somehow gets knocked out of the picture since theres supposed to be a new enemy next season, so how could a Goa'uld get enough power to rise up since a bunch of the System Lords being the most powerful ones are dead or defeated. Heh I suppose I'll just have to do the old "wait and see".

[Ichiban]

I wonder if they are ever going to talk about or figure out what the ninth chevron is for? Since it is the ninth season starting this summer hopefully.

I also found a new Stargate game coming out soon hope it's good
http://www.stargate-thealliance.com/main.php?lang=en

[Arandar]

I think theres actually two games for Stargate coming out. One for the XBox and PS2 and then one exclusivly for the GC. The XBox and PS2 game is the one you posted I believe, or maybe this is the GC one? I forget. Bu I think I did read in an issue of Nintendo Power months ago about the GC Stargate game. I know I read it somewhere. Heh yay for vague references on stuff that might not even turn out to be true! :smt035

[Duality]

Nope, Alliance is for the PC, PS2, and Xbox.

[Arandar]

Well I finally saw the season finals for both shows so now we're on equal footing. At least I would think since I assumed they haven't made the next season of either yet? I was kind of sprised/angry that they didn't make Atlantis 2 hours long though. I mean its not really a "season finale" if you have a to be continued next season. Ah well. Heh now I have nothing to do on Friday nights. I would come home from work and watch SG-1 and Atlantis and now the season for each is over. Add to that I only watch like half a dozen shows or so to begin with and within a month or two I'll have no tv to watch at all.

Everything is screwed up on SG-1 though. There are no fish in my pond damnit!

[AcquiredTarget]

Having the season finale as cliff hangers is pretty much SOP for the SCiFi Channel. they used to do it with Farscape, First Wave and other shows all the time. I think the reason they didn't do it with SG-1 was the uncertainity of the cast willing to return for another season. Esp. w/ Amanda Tapping being preggers. Cookies to donuts, they'll have the BSG season finale as a cliff hanger.
Don't worry, end of July is only 4 long, long, long, long months away.

[Arandar]

I just think it a little lame as to what they are doing with SG-1 though. I mean next year O'Neill us supposed to be promoted AGAIN? He goes for 7 years as a Col. and then FINALLY gets promoted to Brig Gen to run the SGC, and then after a year he'll get another promotion? That just seems rather lame. And they damn well better not kill Hammond for his place to be taken by Jack. His humor is going to be severly missed though.

As for Atlantis, I don't see how they can possibly get out of this one. I mean with Shepperd on a suicide mission, a bunch of people taken, Wraith on the base and surronding some of their best military people what else is their left to do? It kind of funny how only 3 hive ships came though. Send all 60 or so of them and they won't sand a chance. Anyone notice how they changed the design of the hive ship fromt he start of the season to look cooler? It used to be more roundish on the bottom and white.

[Blackwolf]

My cable was out during the second episode of the SG-1 finale and TiVo didn't record it. Dammit.

[Ichiban]

My cable was out during the second episode of the SG-1 finale and TiVo didn't record it. Dammit.

hahahah, sucks to be you, oh wait thats year round!

[Blackwolf]

hahahah, sucks to be you, oh wait thats year round!

...huh?

[Ichiban]

...huh?

Im saying it always sucks to be you, Why must I explain myself to the lower lifeforms of the world? Every questions is Why God? Why? then when they dont get a answer it's God doesnt exist. Damn Existance!

[Blackwolf]

I understood what you were saying, I was just wondering what the motivation was to stoop so low as to do a mindless flame in a thread about a TV show. I figured that since you're such a "higher lifeform" that you'd be above doing something so petty like that.

Guess I was wrong. Makes me glad I'm a "lower lifeform."

[Arandar]

Im saying it always sucks to be you, Why must I explain myself to the lower lifeforms of the world? Every questions is Why God? Why? then when they dont get a answer it's God doesnt exist. Damn Existance!

You do know hes an Admin now right? And since Apulo is offline for the time being, and Scot doesn't worry about getting to involved in forum moderation(hence Blackwolf being an Admin) you do relize this does make Blackwolf "God" here right? You should have just left it at sucks to be you, and even then it wasn't really needed.

[Duality]

I'm thinkin' he was kidding.

Making a really poorly planned, ill-timed joke, but a joke nonetheless.

[Arandar]

I know he was, but as you said it was a poor joke at best. And was only made worse as he went on trying to explain why he was insulting Blackwolf.

[AcquiredTarget]

Ok, so my predictions for Season 9, Hammond retires or goes to Atlantis (and eventually gets killed, off'd, shuffled off his mortal coil even). O'Neill retires so he can make whoopie with Carter without getting in trouble with Air Force regulations against getting carnal with those under his command. And fish. Hence, Beau Bridges comes in. SG-1 comes under the command of Ben Browder's character.

We'll see a new enemy. They're makers of some big, bad ass weapons. And they're cute little furry critters with a bad attitude. Yep, that's right. We've met the Ancients, the Nox (however ya spell 'em), and Thor's posse. We haven't met the fourth race - but we'll meet 'em now. Enter the Furlings.

[Ichiban]

Man you put hidden Irony in a comment and no one gets it. I guess that what I get for being smart. Oh well, maybe next time I will stoop down to the role of retard to match the intelligence of others instead of being myself.

[Duality]

Ok, so my predictions for Season 9, Hammond retires or goes to Atlantis (and eventually gets killed, off'd, shuffled off his mortal coil even).
I doubt Hammond will be killed. Retire, perhaps, but I see no reason why he cannot continue to oversee all of Homeworld Security operations as he has.

O'Neill retires so he can make whoopie with Carter without getting in trouble with Air Force regulations against getting carnal with those under his command. And fish. Hence, Beau Bridges comes in.
Yeah, its obvious they set this one up this season. It'll be hard to believe that he's actually retiring and not going to be on the show anymore.

SG-1 comes under the command of Ben Browder's character.
This is actually supposed to be a point of contention, as Browder's character is going to be the same rank as Carter.

We'll see a new enemy. They're makers of some big, bad ass weapons. And they're cute little furry critters with a bad attitude. Yep, that's right. We've met the Ancients, the Nox (however ya spell 'em), and Thor's posse. We haven't met the fourth race - but we'll meet 'em now. Enter the Furlings.
Sadly, this doesn't seem likely. They may be introduced, but the writers may also hold onto them for use in Atlantis. The new enemy will be different, but familiar. Not a Goa'uld.

[AcquiredTarget]

I doubt Hammond will be killed. Retire, perhaps, but I see no reason why he cannot continue to oversee all of Homeworld Security operations as he has.I hope they don't off him. If O'Neill retires like I think he will, then you're right. This is actually supposed to be a point of contention, as Browder's character is going to be the same rank as Carter. Oh, did not know that. Mmmmm, friction amongst the team. Should be fun. Sadly, this doesn't seem likely. They may be introduced, but the writers may also hold onto them for use in Atlantis. The new enemy will be different, but familiar. Not a Goa'uld.Dude, don't harsh my mellow. ;) :D Yeah, the Furlings were a reach.

[Arandar]

Well from what I read about next season and with RDA leaving is that he(O'Neill) gets promoted AGAIN to oversee all of Earth's security, basically Hammond's job now, so he hand picks his replacement to run the SGC. That is what I read about a month ago for it so it could change obviously.

As for the enemy next season, Baal is still alive so he'll cause trouble of course. But I think all the Goa'uld, except the Tok'ra, will be wiped out in season 9. The Asgard are pretty much free of their troubles now that we know of. The Replicators are gone, Anubis is toast, and large amounts of System Lords and other Goa'uld are gone as well.

About the Furlings, yes I hope we meet them, but I don't think they'll be an enemy. Do you think the Ancients, Nox, and Asgard would be friends with a race that was evil and craved war? Besides the Ancients had so much more superior tech way back when even more so then the Asgard have now, so I doubt the Furlings can be THAT much of a threat. And then Thor can just go "Hey! WTF is wrong with you guys?"

[Digital*Firefly]

Season 10 starts on Friday. Anyone still watch? I'm almost caught up on all the previous seasons. I have 5 episodes left in season 8. Hopefully I can finish season 9 by Friday.

[AcquiredTarget]

I'm surprised that I liked season 9 as much as I did with Ben Browder and Claudia Black coming on board (probably because I was a Farscape fan). Granted its changed, but then the show changed somewhat when Anderson cut back on his appearances.

[Arandar]

Doesn't he come back in season 10? Or at least for some special times? I swear on the add I see SG-1 going through the gate and then O'Neill in there with them. At the least there were 5 people, so someone is joining them. I just wonder if in this season we will get to actually see the Furlings and not just find out more about them.

[JohnnyWuFei]

RDA will be in 2 eps of SG-1 and 3 eps of Atlantis this season.

[Digital*Firefly]

I have 8 episodes left in Season 9 (I can't believe I've watched 9 seasons). the only other show I've seen that many seasons is the Simpsons and the Simpsons.

[AcquiredTarget]

They snuck one across the borderGreat line from the season opener. Vala's delivery was just too damn funny on that line

[Arandar]

I bet thats what every mother wants though, some freaky eyed daughter. To bad the eyes aren't pure red though, then she would look really demonic.

I just hope on Atlantis they keep Michael around. I mean since they killed off Steve and everything it would be nice to have a Wraith as one of the recurring characters. Plus I would think then we would get to find out more about the Wraith and how things happen with them.

[Digital*Firefly]

Well I finished season 9 on Friday night and watched the season 10 premiere. It was pretty good. It sucked having to watch commercials though. The CGI was pretty good. It's great watching a show with Ben Browder again.

Now I need to watch the second half of Atlantis seaons 2.